tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post1622903373829993012..comments2024-02-03T12:04:16.336+00:00Comments on SNOOKER SCENE BLOG: A RANDOM IDEADave Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-73557871364022284012011-01-20T23:11:27.989+00:002011-01-20T23:11:27.989+00:00I think it's a great idea. It's even more ...I think it's a great idea. It's even more interesting then paying an individual fixed price in every single tournament, because it illustrates the rareness and specialness of a Maximum. If the Jackpot goes higher, you see how long it has been since the last one. And it would be "equal" with the longing of the audience: If the last Maximum has happened a longer time ago, you get much more excited if a 147 happens - and equal to that the player would get more money. <br /><br />You should suggest it to World Snooker!DerMoment1608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-27674609105863305392011-01-20T20:06:16.791+00:002011-01-20T20:06:16.791+00:00A rolling maximum break prize would be great.A rolling maximum break prize would be great.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-72100339805039358532011-01-20T19:33:43.735+00:002011-01-20T19:33:43.735+00:00Not a new idea Dave! In the PDC, in which Barry He...Not a new idea Dave! In the PDC, in which Barry Hearn is chairman, there is already a rollover system in place.<br /><br />In tournaments away from the TV (Darts ProTour/Snooker PTC) there is £400 rolled over for a 9-dart finish. Players are getting so good, this amount is not getting very high at all. There's a 9 darter almost every week!<br /><br />In TV tournaments, there is a £5,000 fund that is constantly rolled over. Adrian Lewis' 9-darter in the World Championship was worth £10,000.<br /><br />I think its inevitable it comes into place in snooker events.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-3444425258196276542011-01-19T17:01:37.523+00:002011-01-19T17:01:37.523+00:00thats a silly idea Johan.
Betsy seems to have van...thats a silly idea Johan.<br /><br />Betsy seems to have vanished after HIS errorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-39668519239610011172011-01-19T14:59:54.504+00:002011-01-19T14:59:54.504+00:00Another idea: if a player makes a maximum, it woul...Another idea: if a player makes a maximum, it would count as if he'd won 2 frames. So at 8-9 behind in the Masters: make a 147 and you'll be Champion!Johannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-22802794206665093042011-01-19T09:11:22.772+00:002011-01-19T09:11:22.772+00:00It wasn't even Parrott who thought of it. A ro...It wasn't even Parrott who thought of it. A roll over jackpot has been an obvious idea for some time. I've said myself for years that's what they should do. It is the only option. They've done it in darts for the 9 darter for years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-82309574778586837222011-01-19T07:33:22.899+00:002011-01-19T07:33:22.899+00:00betsy made a boo-boobetsy made a boo-booAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-59131212014701186062011-01-18T22:36:23.341+00:002011-01-18T22:36:23.341+00:00This talk about insurance is utterly irrelevant. D...This talk about insurance is utterly irrelevant. Don't insure. Put the money up and consider them saved if no one makes a 147 or give them to charity.<br /><br />There HAS to be a prize - it IS a special achievement in front of the cameras with so much at stake. There must be a reward for this and scrapping it is a disgrace. I love Dave's idea but it should be a higher amount, say 4,000 or so. But the now classic WC max should always be 147,000. <br /><br />There are many great aspects of snooker besides just high breaks but we should never belittle the maximum as Barry has done. I adore Barry but this is absolutely crazy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-59462478839046107332011-01-18T21:49:55.575+00:002011-01-18T21:49:55.575+00:00I think Betfred would have a bit more to say about...I think Betfred would have a bit more to say about it than 888 Betty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-65750364693348865032011-01-18T21:10:44.527+00:002011-01-18T21:10:44.527+00:00I think 888.com would have something to say about ...I think 888.com would have something to say about their 147 prize money being used to fund maximums in events carrying other sponsors. I suppose the sponsors themselves could insist on a maximum break prize if they really wanted.Betty Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-74758259624364962902011-01-18T21:02:01.778+00:002011-01-18T21:02:01.778+00:00"The World Championship will be the only even..."The World Championship will be the only event to carry a 147 prize." (out of the Barry Hearn letter at the start of the season)<br /><br />Take that prize and share it with all players making a max during the season.<br /><br />Award enough for every player who makes one.<br /><br />2005: 2<br />2006: 2<br />2007: 6<br />2008: 7<br />2009: 2<br />2010: 7vollziehermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-88007910592857336462011-01-18T19:07:16.057+00:002011-01-18T19:07:16.057+00:003.39pm It is sad that O'Sullivan can't be ...3.39pm It is sad that O'Sullivan can't be bothered anymore, apart from the Premier League. But it isn't snooker's problem, it's his.<br /><br />AlphaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-52647387183967124932011-01-18T17:37:43.327+00:002011-01-18T17:37:43.327+00:00Amateurs and club players make 147 maximums quite ...Amateurs and club players make 147 maximums quite readily.<br /><br />The novelty of the maximum has wore off over the years.<br /><br />But if it makes Ronnie and Brannon happy then World Snooker MUST do the accumulator from next season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-76957074326031650002011-01-18T16:35:38.116+00:002011-01-18T16:35:38.116+00:00It was Parrott who first floated the idea after th...It was Parrott who first floated the idea after the O'Sullivan madness, but that's not really the point. <br /><br />Dave is correct to say the achievement is praise-worthy, still. I think they should do this to add a little extra interest.<br /><br />During the Lakeside darts, commentator David Croft felt that a nine-darter was harder to execute than a 147, but with the standard increasing in darts there seem to be as many nine-darters as maximum breaks.jamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-52924644189968585182011-01-18T15:39:26.898+00:002011-01-18T15:39:26.898+00:00Re: Ronnie's reluctance to pot the black for a...Re: Ronnie's reluctance to pot the black for a 147 because there was no prize - I'm sure that he could get a substantial sponsorship to make a 147 playing left handed only. That would be something. Mind you, on saying that he can't be bothered to win matches at the moment let alone win tournaments. If he keeps this frame of mind (no pun intended) he'll probably never win another tournament except maybe a few Premier Leagues. His ability has not diminished in any meaningful way he just can't be bothered. How sad is he? How sad is that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-89954398290803403042011-01-18T15:23:19.574+00:002011-01-18T15:23:19.574+00:00betty, he wasnt just a bit of one
good how his pe...betty, he wasnt just a bit of one<br /><br />good how his people got him to turn it round by telling him what to say to appease the paying publicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-38822458731128842072011-01-18T15:21:45.049+00:002011-01-18T15:21:45.049+00:00first off, after putting his foot in it in glasgow...first off, after putting his foot in it in glasgow by putting the paying public at odds with his carefree attitude when they scrape together £ to go see him...he is then (probably) spoon fed the idea to try to save some face.<br /><br /><br />dave, your idea has been, in at least very similar form, muted by various sources.<br /><br />i much prefer a reverse climb.<br /><br />if its 12 events were talking about.....<br /><br />1st event £10000 147 prize<br />if not won<br />2nd event £9500 147 prize<br />if not won<br />3rd event £9000 147 prize<br /><br />if its done at any event, make it £5000 start off at the next event for a 147...and if that isnt won, drop it £250 at a time.<br /><br />ok, not much, but at least the incentive is there to go...and go for it early and once its done, theres an alternative.<br /><br />ok, if a 147 was made in ev1 then 10k is paid out and you could have one at each of the next 11, making it 11x5000 + the 10000 for the first event<br /><br />which would mean that if 147s were done in every event the payout would total an extra 65000 ON TOP OF THE HIGH BREAK PRIZE....<br /><br />of course, this wont happen. id say thered be less than 20,000 paid out per year on this. in fact, id say less than 15000 would be a much better average....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-70030644763076656022011-01-18T15:02:09.964+00:002011-01-18T15:02:09.964+00:00Dennis Taylor (I think!) suggested an accumulator ...Dennis Taylor (I think!) suggested an accumulator during a match at the UK, but if Dave is commentating he probably doesn't catch as much commentary as the rest of us. It seems everyone is thinking along the same lines—the players and the viewers want to see a prize and all the WSA needs to do is factor it into the prize money schedule. It's bewildering that they are so resistant to the concept. I thought Ronnie was a bit of cock at the World Open but in retrospect he was right to make an issue of it.Betty Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-63277933678339263812011-01-18T14:02:02.706+00:002011-01-18T14:02:02.706+00:00Dave, why did World Snooker need to insure against...Dave, why did World Snooker need to insure against the maximum break and how much was it costing them every year until Hearn scrapped the prize?<br /><br />AlphaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-35564103115157058422011-01-18T13:44:34.402+00:002011-01-18T13:44:34.402+00:00First I've heard of it.
Odd how these things ...First I've heard of it.<br /><br />Odd how these things end up being not about the idea but the notion that someone else may have thought of it, as if two people can't have the same idea.Dave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-84224770983018419792011-01-18T13:19:17.932+00:002011-01-18T13:19:17.932+00:00Hardly a random idea dave,this has been mooted by ...Hardly a random idea dave,this has been mooted by several commentaters and players alike over the course of the season.Surely your not claiming to be the first to float this idea?This is very old hat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-65227080702863690562011-01-18T13:17:22.843+00:002011-01-18T13:17:22.843+00:00there is ought to be a maximum break prize because...there is ought to be a maximum break prize because now no one tries to make one, even ronnie didn't want to do it. 100% there will be far fewer maxis than beforeUrindragonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-24774325127203830162011-01-18T13:16:36.530+00:002011-01-18T13:16:36.530+00:00Hi Dave,has the 147 bonus prize been scrapped for ...Hi Dave,has the 147 bonus prize been scrapped for the world championship also?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-79827484167948735552011-01-18T13:15:48.673+00:002011-01-18T13:15:48.673+00:00It's not a novel idea - it happens in darts fo...It's not a novel idea - it happens in darts for the nine darter. Surprised Barry hasn't adopted it as it will roll far more and generate more attention than it does in darts.Snooker Traderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02391133185956132165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-74982113178497816222011-01-18T12:24:20.542+00:002011-01-18T12:24:20.542+00:00The viewers don't care who wins the high break...The viewers don't care who wins the high break prize, but I wouldn't underestimate its impact on the early rounds. Many of the more seasoned pros come in and try to keep the game tight with a minimal risk policy to edge out the seed. The high break prize can double their first round earnings, so it's worth taking the risk if a high break is on, so it can help open up play in a round where you can get lots of stagnant matches. Once you get to the quarters the high break prize becomes increasingly less significant as a share of the overall prize, but by then you don't need to incentivise attacking play as much. On that basis I would keep the high break prize, but I don't really see the problem in chucking 5k into an acummulator every tournament — if the finances are that much of an issue just cut the runners up prize by 5k.Betty Logannoreply@blogger.com