tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post3633364953687341668..comments2024-02-03T12:04:16.336+00:00Comments on SNOOKER SCENE BLOG: TORTOISE v HAREDave Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-55146966367126149512012-04-25T07:51:56.386+01:002012-04-25T07:51:56.386+01:00Well said. I am immensely irritated any time a com...Well said. I am immensely irritated any time a commentator/presenter talks about "these new young Chinese players" or says "they're very hardworking"... positive stereotypes are just as ignorant as negative ones. Why can't we just appreciate all players as individuals, which is after all the only way of respecting the talent of each.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-80994506859251294802012-04-23T22:07:48.449+01:002012-04-23T22:07:48.449+01:00Hi David. Another suprb day's play, in my view...Hi David. Another suprb day's play, in my view. <br /><br />Maguire .V Brecel - 6-3 down, Brecel needed a good start, and got it, to trail, 6-4. Despite a sign of Maguire frustration, when Maguire lad 7-4, he won 10-5. Good win for Maguire. Brecel, though, is a great talent. I suspect the good Crucible Debut he showed, will not be the last we see of him, as a snooker player, on television screens.<br /><br />Stevens .V. Fu - Session one - Fu was far from his best. Stevens, not at his best either, but strong enough to take the first eight frames. Fu won the last frame of that session, to avoid a session white-wash being put on him. Stevens 8-1 up, going into session two.<br /><br />Stevens .V. Fu - session two - In tonight's second session, of this match, Fu, as he needed to, did start well. 8-2. Stevens won a important 11th frame. 9-2. The next two frames were shared. A 10-3 win for Stevens. The score-line, flattered him a bit, I thought. Playing-wise, in my view, though, Stevens was the stronger player.<br /><br />O'Sullivan .V. Ebdon - An exiting start, a re-spotted black-ball, first frame, went to O'Sullivan. He powered on. With the help of big breaks, including one O'Sullivan century break, O'Sullivan led 6-1.<br /><br />In Frame 8, Having needed a snooker, O'Sullivan got it, and led 7-1. A 90 break, by Ebdon, in frame nine. O'Sullivan leads 7-2, over-night. Great stuff.<br /><br />Murphy .V. Jones - Murphy, leading 5-4, increasd that to 6-4, Jones, then won six ofthe next seven frames, to lead 9-7. Murphy, in trouble. Murphy made it 9-8, but Jones, superbly, cliched a great 10-8 victory. Murphy, another top 16 seed, to exit this 2012 championship.<br /><br />Lee .V. Higginson - Great stuff. Lee led, 1-0, 2-1 and 3-2, with good play. Each time, Higginson levelled, 1-1, 2-2, and 3-3. Higginson then seemed to take control. He led 5-3, having, in some positive style, won three frames in a row, from 3-2 down, to lead 5-3. Higginson missed a chance to take a 6-3, over-night lead. Lee wins the ninth frame. Higginson leads, 5-4, over-night.<br /><br /><br />Stat of the day - <br /><br />Today, is 23-4-2012, the 29th anniversary, to the day', of Cliff Thorburn's 147 maximum break, at the 1983 World Championship, at The Crucible, against Terry Griffiths. This was done,on 23-4- 1983.<br /><br />Great play. <br /><br />I can not wait for more, tomorrow.JAMIE O'REILLYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-40488199033521188812012-04-23T21:03:59.980+01:002012-04-23T21:03:59.980+01:00818 we all know it wasnt a push shot, it was a dou...818 we all know it wasnt a push shot, it was a double hit, but that is often referred to as a push as its often only in slow motion you can clearly see whether they separated then double hit, or were pushed together, like newtons cradle.<br /><br />so, technically it was a double hit and not what lots refer to as a push<br /><br />their point is still correct. it was a foulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-62011424225929174382012-04-23T20:18:14.993+01:002012-04-23T20:18:14.993+01:00It wasn't a push shot as anyone who knows anyt...It wasn't a push shot as anyone who knows anything about snooker knowsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-7171019727076913622012-04-23T19:24:46.345+01:002012-04-23T19:24:46.345+01:00Any player who fouls and does not declare it is en...Any player who fouls and does not declare it is entitled to be called a cheat whether he comes from England, Russia, China or Mars. There's too much money and too many players in the game now so expect more cheats to come through. <br />Soon there will be a player who fails a drug test what action will Hearn take then? <br />The sooner Hearn weeds out the cheats and stops picking on Mark Allen the better. Mark Allen is not the wrong doer in this instance. <br />The pockets are rather generous this year.Commander Bloorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05441599481761231190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-21345666736266583592012-04-23T18:23:37.504+01:002012-04-23T18:23:37.504+01:00David
I am outraged by Allens comments
do you kn...David<br /><br />I am outraged by Allens comments<br /><br />do you know an email / snal mail address where we can send our complaints to WS<br /><br />?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-80618071660874467022012-04-23T18:13:50.240+01:002012-04-23T18:13:50.240+01:00I still cant believe that there are ignorant peopl...I still cant believe that there are ignorant people on here who dont know that even pros can skim a ball with a cue and not know its been feathered, especially when striking the cueball hard and focusing in another direction (off angle pot) to the one youre bridging over.<br /><br />Total ignorance, just assuming people will ALWAYS feel it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-24076357980797776722012-04-23T16:14:06.557+01:002012-04-23T16:14:06.557+01:00Very sour grapes from Allen. He is immature and wr...Very sour grapes from Allen. He is immature and wrong. <br /><br />Allen lost because he played bad. Not because of ANYTHING else. He will realize that in a few days time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-65765864061097088082012-04-23T15:54:33.791+01:002012-04-23T15:54:33.791+01:00I don't know Mark Allen, but have had tremendo...I don't know Mark Allen, but have had tremendous sympathy for him in the past, and don't want to throw around easy accusations.<br /><br />If he makes a point about an individual incident, that's fine. He's entitled to his view, he's only human, he's also entitled to a bit of frustration when he's just lost at the Crucible.<br /><br />But when you start talking about ethnic groups of people having negative traits inherent to their race, any valid point you have about an individual foul goes out the window. Given what he said at the World Open, I'm not sure how he thought he could talk of Chinese players as being of the long-standing "shifty Oriental" stereotype without questions, serious questions, being asked. <br /><br />Snooker can't hope to expand its frontiers if those who fall in love with the game fear they have to deal with racism and abuse in response. The WPBSA needs to let any player guilty of racism know in no uncertain terms what is or is not acceptable, and I don't think a serious fine and docking of ranking points would be disproportionate in punishing anyone found guilty of such an offence.John Michael Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05669732896066104903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-43523057339568476782012-04-23T15:14:19.699+01:002012-04-23T15:14:19.699+01:00another bout of complete ignorance from Allen .I b...another bout of complete ignorance from Allen .I bet he eats chinese food (well a dumbed down westernised version of it anyway).not that awful stuff the chinese get served in err.. China.He needs to think back 2 seasons ago when there were only 6 events and be grateful all these terrible cheating Chinese are making this game more popular.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-82127590977306280562012-04-23T14:15:31.168+01:002012-04-23T14:15:31.168+01:00130, i agree
it was a foul. double hit.
i dont k...130, i agree<br /><br />it was a foul. double hit.<br /><br />i dont know if cao knew it. he should have known, but nobody can no for sure.<br /><br />allen said he was left in the balls had it been called.<br /><br />thats a lie<br /><br />allen said cao looked at the ref. i didnt see him look at the ref (even if he did, players often look at the ref as they walk by them)<br /><br />allen potted the black and white and blamed the table for rolling off.<br /><br />the cue ball off the 2nd cushion had side on it that was quite clearly taking it closer to the pocket. the table wasnt running that bad, if at all. it was a poor shot<br /><br />a poor shot from a bad loser. a once nice wee guy from a good family has become a self centred egotistical pr disaster of a man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-74300811905217742392012-04-23T14:11:48.762+01:002012-04-23T14:11:48.762+01:00103, youre obviously not a player of any standard....103, youre obviously not a player of any standard.<br /><br />completely clueless.<br /><br />as i said, ask any pro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-19874203636256651892012-04-23T13:56:13.875+01:002012-04-23T13:56:13.875+01:00"youd know its quite easy to feather a ball w..."youd know its quite easy to feather a ball with your cue and not notice."<br /><br />Sorry, this isn't true. A player always knows if he has feathered a ball with his tip, or accidentally hit the underside of his cue against another ball. In the latter case the vibration through the wood is clearly felt in the player's hand. It's like cricket - a player always knows when he's nicked it.<br /><br />By the way, the Marco Fu incident was against Maguire in the 2006 WC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-23660025281781523092012-04-23T13:30:12.710+01:002012-04-23T13:30:12.710+01:00How many times in other sports do we see , with th...How many times in other sports do we see , with the benefit of action replays, doubtful decisions by officials. Snooker is not immune to this and the people concerned should acknowledge that snooker is one of the few sports where players call fouls on themselves. There are no cheats in snooker only bad losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-10612953969295559372012-04-23T13:23:22.394+01:002012-04-23T13:23:22.394+01:00As far as snooker is concerned sponsors and televi...As far as snooker is concerned sponsors and television call the tune otherwise there are no tournaments. It's about time some players realised this and engaged their brains before opening their mouths. The reason the game is thriving at the moment is that there have someone running the game who understands this only too well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-46840223537892811592012-04-23T13:03:51.095+01:002012-04-23T13:03:51.095+01:001237 you sound like an apologist. You know when y...1237 you sound like an apologist. You know when your cue comes into contact with a ball. It's possible to catch a ball with your cuff or something, but feathering or playing a push shot...sorry it doesn't happen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-70301783522664148422012-04-23T12:41:04.818+01:002012-04-23T12:41:04.818+01:00Mark Allen made a stupid comment about chinese pla...Mark Allen made a stupid comment about chinese players.<br /><br />Anyway, I don't see the point with Chinese sponsorship.<br /><br />They are allowed to add a wild card round, which is totally unfair.<br />Different culture, yes, but why should the rules be different ?tatannes XInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-70723641538483223162012-04-23T12:37:41.796+01:002012-04-23T12:37:41.796+01:001134 if you were any kind of player yourself, or c...1134 if you were any kind of player yourself, or could spell brain, never mind have one, youd know its quite easy to feather a ball with your cue and not notice.<br /><br />ask any pro, or and local league player.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-57422759231244475902012-04-23T12:18:17.914+01:002012-04-23T12:18:17.914+01:00A bit of advice to Mark Allen - it's better to...A bit of advice to Mark Allen - it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid than open it and leave people in no doubt!Raynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-53556033229675813652012-04-23T12:08:25.442+01:002012-04-23T12:08:25.442+01:00I don't think that punishing Allen is a very g...I don't think that punishing Allen is a very good strategy - he only then goes on Twitter and rants about freedom of speach. Instead, World Snooker could demonstrate that he doesn't deserve to be treated seriously since he's not capable of serious behavior. <br /><br />Just imagine the following report of his press conference on World Snooker site: "And Allen, always a funny chap, came up with an amusing joke during his press conference, accusing Chinese players of bad sportsmanship. Members of the press had a good laugh, as intended". <br /><br />Or, better still, World Snooker could set up a permanent competition (with Parris cue as a prize): "What sort of 'scandal' will Mark Allen cause this month?" "Now, who had 'Barry Hearn is ruining snooker with his additional tournaments and increased opportunities for players'? Congratulation, we will send you a Parris cue signed by Stuart Bingham".Dzierzgulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-30501695263140866782012-04-23T11:53:52.416+01:002012-04-23T11:53:52.416+01:00Yes, all people are ultimately individuals but mos...Yes, all people are ultimately individuals but most countries have their own distinct cultures. And it just might be true that sportmanship isn't a universal trait.<br /><br />The ridiculous wildcard rounds that China is allowed to force upon ranking events is a clear indicator of the rotten state of the chinese snooker boom. <br /><br />If that is the attitude of their officials how would their players know how to play fair?<br /><br />Don't dismiss Allen's claims just yet as he may have touched on something worth looking into.Clausnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-86322494704001682592012-04-23T11:44:21.513+01:002012-04-23T11:44:21.513+01:00It was a push shot, you know when you play them an...It was a push shot, you know when you play them and Cao blatantly cheated. Allen is right to call him on it. There was the incident with Wenbo against Swail three years ago, which I guess is what Allen is referring to. I guess at the end of the day there is no obligation to own up to a foul, but it's shame if we lose the sportsmanship from the game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-78568204820506151942012-04-23T11:34:05.870+01:002012-04-23T11:34:05.870+01:00Regardless of what he said afterwards, to me it wa...Regardless of what he said afterwards, to me it was clearly a foul by Cao. Allen also mucked up by saying it was a push shot. It was not a push shot but a double hit. This was evident on the replay.<br /><br />The problem with Allen using the word "cheat" is that it has a rather different meaning outside the sport. If someone does not declare a foul on themselves then most snooker fans would describe that as "cheating", even though strictly it is not cheating because the referee is the sole judge of fouls - there is no requirement for a player to declare a foul on himself in the rules. <br /><br />When he named Liang Wenbo I assume Allen was thinking of the time when Liang played Joe Swail where Swail put him back and the referee mistakenly replaced the balls in an easier position, allowing Liang a much easier shot. One can say that you should bring up these points at the time they happen but we know in practice that this is extremely difficult to do, especially when the other guy is on a break. <br /><br />I have also seen Marco Fu feather a colour with the underside of his cue and not call a foul on himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-87346504333819481812012-04-23T10:49:59.069+01:002012-04-23T10:49:59.069+01:00i hope allen gets a ban!
i hope ebdon wears train...i hope allen gets a ban!<br /><br />i hope ebdon wears trainers todayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com