tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post3838367747119330759..comments2024-02-03T12:04:16.336+00:00Comments on SNOOKER SCENE BLOG: THE EXHIBITIONISTSDave Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-62386839630781566442011-08-10T23:27:20.460+01:002011-08-10T23:27:20.460+01:00in respective of judd being in the top 16 when he ...in respective of judd being in the top 16 when he accepted this invitation (which personally is a load of bull)the chances of Ding not being a top 16 player would have been minimal.<br /><br />also trying to promote snooker in the poorest underserved regions of China will not bring in the punters because they are poor. <br /><br />and playing TV Exhibition in china to promote snooker is a bit stupid because theres plenty of snooker in china.<br /><br />go to countries that don't see much professional snooker is the way to promote snooker ie Brazil.wildnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-53781394235567920162011-08-10T20:15:41.961+01:002011-08-10T20:15:41.961+01:00If Trump didn't think he would be ranked high ...If Trump didn't think he would be ranked high enough to get an invite, what was Ding's excuse? I can understand Trump's reasoning, but it looks like Ding (who is a solid top 8 player now) knew of the Brazilian Masters, presumably knew of the rules forbidding him from playing exhibitions during tournaments, and went ahead and agreed to do it anyway. The alternative is that Ding wasn't given a choice, this being China and all. As we saw with Bahrain, sometimes last minute scheduling by the WSA can cause clashes with other events and that can't be helped, and I don't think Barry would come in on a player if that were the case, but it looks like Ding has knowingly violated his WSA contract in this instance. I don't expect to see him sanctioned since if the Chinese Snooker Association back Ding there isn't much Barry can do, but what sort of precedent does that set? If you don't fine Ding, then you can't fine any other player who sets up an exhibition during an event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-5130454514383661342011-08-10T13:25:31.810+01:002011-08-10T13:25:31.810+01:00It's probably more due to the fact that the Di...It's probably more due to the fact that the Ding/Trump match received snooker's highest ever rated television audience. In China alone it drew over 50 million viewers, the only snooker match ever to do so. Ding is an obvious box office draw in his home country, but Trump's profile in China probably exceeds even Ronnie O'Sullivan now than thanks to his semi-final tie against Ding and his China Open win. Trump is probably guaranteed 20k per exhibition in China, and his exhibition earnings could easily dwarf his competition earnings, so obviously he has to prioritise his earning potential.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-20651181048499995032011-08-10T02:51:12.130+01:002011-08-10T02:51:12.130+01:00Crucially if Judd had not reached the final of the...Crucially if Judd had not reached the final of the WSC he may not have received an invite to Brazil at all.<br /><br />-----------------------------<br /><br />True but its also highly likely that had Judd not reached the final of the WSC he wouldnt have been Dings opponents for this invitational in China either......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-59658198269240910012011-08-09T19:19:25.612+01:002011-08-09T19:19:25.612+01:00Presumably they worked down the ranking list.
I d...Presumably they worked down the ranking list.<br /><br />I doubt Hearn will stop the exhibition from going ahead. It would put him on collision course with the Chinese Snooker Association who organise and finance three events, and possibly four now if the World Open goes ahead. No way they will tolerate their top player being sanctioned for playing Chinese events.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-23319849446625869652011-08-09T18:50:57.902+01:002011-08-09T18:50:57.902+01:00if reaching the world final was crucial for Trump...if reaching the world final was crucial for Trump's invite, then how the hell did Mark Davis get his?urindragonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-42066471722195489242011-08-09T17:25:05.957+01:002011-08-09T17:25:05.957+01:00re 2.05
To be fair, Hearn has no choice but to st...re 2.05<br /><br />To be fair, Hearn has no choice but to stop Ding and Trump from doing this exhibition. Firstly, there is plenty of time after PTC 8 in Oct and before the UK in Dec to organize this exhibition.<br /> Secondly, if Hearn allows it to go ahead it sets a dangerous precedent-who's to stop another player doing it in say, the new Indian event?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-17909421626190287552011-08-09T16:48:18.553+01:002011-08-09T16:48:18.553+01:00Didn't Barry Hearn say when he revealed the Pr...Didn't Barry Hearn say when he revealed the Premier League, players are only allowed to play in WS Sanctioned Televised events, if they play any non sanctioned they will be punished in some sort, so does this mean the Chinese Event is a WS Sanctioned?TazManiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10400118522868248699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-56246483744250461002011-08-09T14:05:10.350+01:002011-08-09T14:05:10.350+01:00It's one thing banning players from committing...It's one thing banning players from committing to exhibitions where the date for WSA event is pre-set, but banning players from participating in exhibitions which they have committed to in good faith would open the players up to legal action from the event organisers. Since the calender is played all year round now then you're effectively banning players from doing exhibitions without WSA permission; I'm pretty sure the Monopolies Commission would come in on World Snooker if they tried to enforce those kinds of contracts. In fact didn't Hendry and Williams sue World Snooker over this type of contract a few years ago? I thought they won and exclusive contracts were outlawed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-77295470340618833672011-08-09T13:49:56.234+01:002011-08-09T13:49:56.234+01:00They'll actually be in breach of their World S...They'll actually be in breach of their World Snooker contract if they play in an exhibition during a tournament<br /><br />With regards to the tweeting, World Snooker need a more sensible policy rather than just banning itDave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-38366470185840499102011-08-09T13:47:46.174+01:002011-08-09T13:47:46.174+01:00If Trump has made a commitment to play another org...If Trump has made a commitment to play another organiser's event he should honour it. It's up to World Snooker to give players enough notice of the calender so they can plan around it. Barry Hearn had plenty to say when a WSA event clashed with the Premer League one year, so he can't really criticise if players choose to honour their contractual obligations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-46309357503719410502011-08-09T12:05:45.242+01:002011-08-09T12:05:45.242+01:00WS needs to stop incentivising players to miss ove...WS needs to stop incentivising players to miss overseas events by awarding less ranking points than UK events.<br /><br />Next season's Brazil tourn is hoped to obtain ranking status. It should, along with the German and Australian Opens, award 7000 points for the winner, as is the case with the Chinese events and the world open.<br /><br />Trump's excuse doesn't wash either. His management should immediately have rearranged the exhibition when he was offered the place in Brazil. He needs to play in as many tournaments as possible at his stage of his career. Perhaps his management are prioritising their percentage of Trumps earnings over an opportunity for him to get some badly needed match practise.kildare cuemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-52998904073654814172011-08-09T11:10:38.531+01:002011-08-09T11:10:38.531+01:00Off-topic 'breaking news': I read that Wor...Off-topic 'breaking news': I read that World Snooker put a stop to tweeting during matches (see www.prosnookerblog.com).<br /><br />Can you comment on this Dave? This unique fringe coverage is doing snooker a world of good so why would they decide to do this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-54442606034889132982011-08-09T09:51:55.440+01:002011-08-09T09:51:55.440+01:00I guess China is the place for lucrative exhibitio...I guess China is the place for lucrative exhibitions these days. So money is competing with ranking points and silverware. Regarding the Brazilian Masters I would be apprehensive about walking around in Brazil due to the unbelievable crime statistics but I suppose it is safer than the fire pit formerly known as London.<br /><br />Players only get fined if they have entered the event, right? I mean Trump and Ding can skip Brazil if they want. I just don't see why Ronnie keeps entering and then get in trouble for changing his mind. He should plan his season ahead of time and be realistic about the travelling he is willing to put in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-81498714304998561082011-08-08T12:18:59.012+01:002011-08-08T12:18:59.012+01:00Good piece, like the John Pulman line!Good piece, like the John Pulman line!RichPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-90146235799314273602011-08-08T12:08:36.470+01:002011-08-08T12:08:36.470+01:00Excellent piece Dave.
It seems to me that a lot o...Excellent piece Dave. <br />It seems to me that a lot of today's players are too lazy to get out of their own way and don't know their arse from a hole in the ground.They presumably want big money tournaments but won't go out of their way to help achieve this.<br />These people need a big wake up call - say a couple of months scaffolding on the building sites in the winter.<br />What is the matter with them all? I'm very disappointed in Trump and Ding and quite a few of the other top ranking players seem to have a ME, ME, ME mentality.<br />There's none so blind ........ and they will never learn.<br />Very grateful to you at least Dave for trying your best to protect and further the interests of snooker.Raynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-8196544413690704472011-08-08T10:37:52.887+01:002011-08-08T10:37:52.887+01:00Off the top off your head Dave, how many players f...Off the top off your head Dave, how many players from the 70s do you recall turning down work because they were too "tired" to go on to the next engagement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com