tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post3217619302519308729..comments2024-02-03T12:04:16.336+00:00Comments on SNOOKER SCENE BLOG: HEARN: PLAYERS NEED TO SHAPE UPDave Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-10534733050037262522010-11-24T17:22:18.472+00:002010-11-24T17:22:18.472+00:00betty logan showing how stupid HE is, by having a ...betty logan showing how stupid HE is, by having a go at people who dont leave a little name on their post<br /><br />my name is eric johnson<br /><br />that make you feel better betsy<br /><br />wrt the wedding, ignore it and stick the snooker on bbc2 and red button<br /><br />only for a day anywayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-87246738920010246142010-11-24T16:26:03.148+00:002010-11-24T16:26:03.148+00:00For once an immature comment about Ronnie makes se...For once an immature comment about Ronnie makes sense. <br /><br />The comment about "kicking him up the arse and the rest will fall into place" is perhaps true, as if Hearn came down heavy on the sport's biggest draw then the other players would take note.<br /><br />The royal wedding is a total nonsense in regards to the press attention it's getting, it would be a joke if we miss out on the semi-final session, the Thursday plan suggested by Dave Hendon is the right way to do it. <br /><br />Plus, Easter falls in the time period for the 2011 championship, so a lot of Bank Holiday double pay for the commentators!!jamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-42958030894782081932010-11-24T16:14:23.885+00:002010-11-24T16:14:23.885+00:00Go Barry go!! I really applaud this man, his ambit...Go Barry go!! I really applaud this man, his ambitions and expectations. However, is smashing the pack a no-go? Is it considered tampering with the scoreline as it surely hurts oneself?<br /><br />Why did Ding enter if he only wanted to get out of the room, the sooner the better? I thought he was a robot not a primadonna.<br /><br />Please enlighten me. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-88286124454809806442010-11-24T14:48:11.347+00:002010-11-24T14:48:11.347+00:00They have the PTC grand final for those players wh...They have the PTC grand final for those players who play on the PTC, so no need to hijack another premiere event. Barring the top players from the Masters is actually the dumbest idea we've had on Dave's blog for a while — no point calling it the Masters if the top players aren't guaranteed to be there. Have you noticed how all these "great" ideas always come fron anons? Too thick to write their own name...Betty Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-22268886961674538372010-11-24T13:22:09.657+00:002010-11-24T13:22:09.657+00:00Anonymous at 8.57 said: "There needs to be a ...Anonymous at 8.57 said: "There needs to be a link from PTC in to the Masters or other Major Event. If you don't commit to PTC then you cant play the masters or UK something like that. And not turn up and smash balls about like babies."<br /><br />I actually think this is a great idea, and I'd even go a step further, maybe basing The Masters on the PTC Order of Merit rather than the rankings.<br /><br />Perhaps the best thing would be to have a mix of the two, with the holder, world champion and anyone else in the top four getting in to The Masters (but still having to play a minimum number of PTC events) and the rest of the places filled by the PTC Order of Merit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-61683984232871387282010-11-24T01:55:21.240+00:002010-11-24T01:55:21.240+00:00You just have to kick o'sullivan's arse an...You just have to kick o'sullivan's arse and the rest will fall into place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-81999522722770961702010-11-24T00:57:13.244+00:002010-11-24T00:57:13.244+00:00Knockout banter from Hearn.
All he has to do now ...Knockout banter from Hearn.<br /><br />All he has to do now is grow the Don King affro and he would be the complete article.Flashbacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-59626086782209134622010-11-23T23:10:10.256+00:002010-11-23T23:10:10.256+00:00They should take a leaf out of Jimmy White's e...They should take a leaf out of Jimmy White's example he has set throughout his career!<br /><br />Similarly, Mark Selby and Shaun Murphy have been exemplary.mathmonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-61400689809960196862010-11-23T20:57:17.360+00:002010-11-23T20:57:17.360+00:00there needs to be a link from PTC in to the Master...there needs to be a link from PTC in to the Masters or other Major Event.<br /><br /><br /> if you don't commit to PTC then you cant play the masters or UK something like that.<br /><br />and not turn up and smash balls about like babies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-13691649479338668222010-11-23T19:08:41.206+00:002010-11-23T19:08:41.206+00:00The point is that snooker players believe they are...The point is that snooker players believe they are better than they really are and have done so over the last 15 years or so.<br />The only real public interest event is mid April to May Day Bank Holiday at Sheffield, all the remaining tour events are a mere channel flicker to the passing multiple sports fan in 2010.<br />It wasn't always like that, but as 3.17pm mentioned, these snooker players think they are Ryder Cup golfers in waiting, without the kudos which goes with the lucrative worldwide golf tours.<br />Many of the high ranking snooker players get involved in signing proxy votes to vote out boards who are doing very well, just because someone from their management company has told them that the promised land is only an EGM away.<br />This is the abject mindlessness which continually dogs the sport which was only made popular by colour television and Alex Higgins and his enemies at the time.<br />You either loved them or hated them but today people have so much to do elsewhere that such emotions no longer exist.<br />Get a grip fellas and take heed of the words of Barry Hearn rather than attempting to throw the board of directors out to feather not only your nest but to exhume the bodies of the previous incumbents who did nothing except claim their 15k for wearing a jacket & tie at board meetings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-25001244216006970112010-11-23T18:44:42.707+00:002010-11-23T18:44:42.707+00:00Two points here
1. Dave, did O'Sullivan give ...Two points here<br /><br />1. Dave, did O'Sullivan give Hearn any reason for not turning up to the EPTC's other than the Paul Hunter Classic?<br /><br />2. O'Sullivan and the other players all need a kick up the backside, they've all been allowed to take so much out of the game without giving anything back, (O'Sullivan especially has gotten away with far too much, far too often), I wasn't a big fan of Hearn's to begin with but the players are lucky he's bothering to spend time trying to turn them into proper professionals. If they want Rodney Walker back so badly they should retire and let the young kids have their time.<br /><br />AlphaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-70119992002576387622010-11-23T18:14:32.477+00:002010-11-23T18:14:32.477+00:00Soso. John Higgins was punished... Well *cleares t...Soso. John Higgins was punished... Well *cleares throat* Dogs that bark don't bite, do they?snookerfan 4711http://twitter.com/#!/Snookerfan4711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-83729807837778129932010-11-23T18:04:44.584+00:002010-11-23T18:04:44.584+00:00On a club level the better the player the more obn...On a club level the better the player the more obnoxious they are! If they have ever made a hundred break they are really up themselves and always think they are better than they are. All this is magnified when they turn pro - so far up their own backsides it's unreal.<br />Let's hope Barry sticks to his gunsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-85385537730518870912010-11-23T17:39:16.658+00:002010-11-23T17:39:16.658+00:00Absolutely correct. Snooker players think they are...Absolutely correct. Snooker players think they are bigger than the sport. They need a kick in the arse and wake up. True PDC players are more recognisable than Snooker players in the UK. Ronnie needs to be punished. You dont see Phil Taylor not attending equivalent PTC Events. Why should snooker players not attend events. Thats their job. You dont see british workers attending work 20/52 weeks in a year. Why should they miss events?TazManiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10400118522868248699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-76585216898163656932010-11-23T17:37:32.058+00:002010-11-23T17:37:32.058+00:00I can't argue with that, but Ronnie who is one...I can't argue with that, but Ronnie who is one of the players who you must be referring too does seem to notify people, but his reasons may not always be genuine.<br /><br />Personally, I think Hearn won't be draconian with him as he would only get the message if he is banned from events or fined hundred of thousands pounds, which I doubt Hearn will do. <br /><br />If he wants change though, it may be the only way forward, not that I particularly like touurnament bans, for what are in the right context only small indiscretions generally speaking anyway. <br /><br />Overall, I think snooker players behave really well in comparison to most sports.jamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-2309161612479662462010-11-23T17:37:28.521+00:002010-11-23T17:37:28.521+00:00About time too.About time too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-58876487585851336842010-11-23T17:35:09.463+00:002010-11-23T17:35:09.463+00:00Dave, the players were encouraged to enter all 12 ...Dave, the players were encouraged to enter all 12 tournaments on an easy entry form back in August. Most of the top players who had the money and didnt want to keep entering on a weekly basis took this opportunity. They have never had to look at scheduling, the PL matches were not complete then and some of them found that they could actually do with some proper rest and practice before the main tour events.<br /><br />Time will tell in the UK whether the players who have played all the PTC's and PL are fatigued or not, it wouldnt surprise me to see someone fresh win it.<br /><br />Tennis and golf players are paid appearance money if the organisers want them at the minor events, and world snooker wont allow them to wait until a week or two before to commit. Golf players who dont make the cut dont get paid, the sooner they cut the prize money to the top 32 and increase it the better, as Jamie Jones got more money from lsoing first round on sunday than the 8 losing quarter finalists.<br /><br />The tour cant fund mediocrity, increase the prize money for winning and cut out the early round prize money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-3271541967000308282010-11-23T17:23:05.583+00:002010-11-23T17:23:05.583+00:00The problem isn't missing events (at least in ...The problem isn't missing events (at least in regards to unprofessional conduct), it's entering them and then not even showing up without even formally withdrawing. By entering an event you've entered into a contract, and other factors could hinge on those contracts such as sponsorship, ticket sales etc. Currently players are allowed to withdraw, but Ronnie wasn't even doing this, in some case he just didn't bother to turn up. It's best not to conflate the arguments between not entering events, withdrawing from events, and "no shows". The first of those should be left to the player's prerogative, the second should be left to the discretion of the WPBSA to decide whether the player had a legitimate reason for withdrawing, but the third should carry a severe penalty.Betty Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-57082481084879485522010-11-23T17:13:46.297+00:002010-11-23T17:13:46.297+00:00You don't have to play in every tournament but...You don't have to play in every tournament but if you enter a tournament you should play in it.<br /><br />If there's a good reason why you can't play you should notify the organisers. It's not just professionalism it's basic manners.<br /><br />Certain players need a wake-up call because they've always had the power over administrators: do what we want or we'll vote you out. It's led to unprofessional behaviour from a small handful of players who owe the game, not the other way round. They can't vote Hearn out and he won't stand for unprofessional behaviour - quite rightly.Dave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-91194095502331152822010-11-23T17:07:08.235+00:002010-11-23T17:07:08.235+00:00He won't punish O'Sullivan that hard, he n...He won't punish O'Sullivan that hard, he needs him too much. I am not saying this is right, but he has already missed events and they may fine him something he can easily afford, but nothing that will raise him to arrive at all the PTC events.<br /><br />Also, with the large increase in the snooker calendar next season, the argument about missing events is largely void unless they are absent from the showpiece events without genuine reeason.<br /><br />I would be interested to know why you thought the players needed a wake-up call, as you don't seem to have named anyone specific that I can recall.<br /><br />I think Ding does need to adopt a bit more fight and Ronnie should attend a few more events.<br /><br />I find it a little rich from Hearn bragging about how professional the PDC is, as he let's crowds at PDC events behave like it's a moron convention.<br /><br />Overall, though Barry Hearn's return is the best thing that has happened to snooker in ages.<br /><br />Neal Foulds is Ladbrokes expert on the X Factor betting market! He was actually very knowledgeable, although his credibility has slightly sunk!!jamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-84013191068340115522010-11-23T16:34:02.926+00:002010-11-23T16:34:02.926+00:003:21 PM
Hearn cant throw the book at them yet, th...3:21 PM<br /><br />Hearn cant throw the book at them yet, they have done very little wrong by not turning up.<br /><br />If Hearn want to treat them like professional sportsmen, then allow them 5 minutes practice before play and to pick and choose which events they play in, just like every tennis, dart and golf player is permitted to do.<br /><br />The EPTC wont survive without the big names, the costs are too high to stage and nobody in Europe wants to go and watch some youngsters nobody has ever heard of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-53756997733978775662010-11-23T16:32:01.955+00:002010-11-23T16:32:01.955+00:00They sure should be allowed to concede frames Bett...They sure should be allowed to concede frames Betty, but not before a few balls are potted. I've actually uploaded the video of Dings infamous behaviour to Youtube and I can assure you that he played like this all the match, he simply didnt want to be there.Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-82342331678131199502010-11-23T16:22:39.670+00:002010-11-23T16:22:39.670+00:00Stuart, 'However Hearn himself needs to curb h...Stuart, 'However Hearn himself needs to curb his feeling of self importance. The game can survive without him but not without the players.' <br /><br />The game was really struggling and heading one way without him so not sure that your comment is very accurate. Snooker really does need Barry Hearn and that's being proved in nearly everything he's done so far.Redandblackbloghttp://redandblackblog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-10228855190864312752010-11-23T16:17:49.072+00:002010-11-23T16:17:49.072+00:00Glad to see Barry coming in on some of these guys....Glad to see Barry coming in on some of these guys. Ronnie's "no shows" were just incredibly ill-mannered. If he didn't want to play he should have withdrawn and notified the event organiser. I think players should perhaps have to show up half an hour or an hour before a match, ten minutes is just cutting it too close. Six hours is a bit excessive I think, but if it's in the contract then the clause should be honoured. As for Ding's pack smashing Barry should perhaps take a closer look at the root cause—it's a consequence of having this silly rule of not being able to conced a frame. I can understand why they have that rule now they have frame betting, but if you bet on a frame score then I think it's a risk you accept. As long as the player doesn't concede frames to fix a core then I think the players should be allowed to concede frames.Betty Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-8106275310553293142010-11-23T15:29:36.974+00:002010-11-23T15:29:36.974+00:00Excellent piece Dave. Very hard to disagree with ...Excellent piece Dave. Very hard to disagree with Mr Hearn and fairly obvious who some of the players he hints at are.The Snooker Oraclehttp://www.twitter.com/@snookeroraclenoreply@blogger.com