tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post4294861713087746754..comments2024-02-03T12:04:16.336+00:00Comments on SNOOKER SCENE BLOG: WHAT'S AGE GOT TO DO WITH IT?Dave Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-16294159321975886542011-10-24T02:02:44.392+01:002011-10-24T02:02:44.392+01:00Seifer you said the ptc's are being reduced to...Seifer you said the ptc's are being reduced to 8 next season when was this announced ?Trevorpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-53831941385007874892011-10-21T11:36:52.119+01:002011-10-21T11:36:52.119+01:00Out of the 20 PTCs so far 11 have been won by top ...Out of the 20 PTCs so far 11 have been won by top 16 players, so that's over 50% of the titles going to 1/6 of the tour. That has been more skewed this season with five of the seven titles going to top 16 players. While it is true that most of the titles last season weren't won by top 16 players, the results still heavily skewed in their favour. This season it is kind of looking anomalous when a player from outside of the top 16 wins; the audiences and TV coverage seems to be seeing the events conform to a more traditional outcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-21135819372319037322011-10-21T08:08:32.195+01:002011-10-21T08:08:32.195+01:001209 anon
normal rankers up to about 6 months ago...1209 anon<br /><br />normal rankers up to about 6 months ago were 5/1 the field and it was always ronnie at the front of the betting.<br /><br />this price didnt reflect form (3 rankers in 6 years), but it was so because of volume of blind bets on him, so i dont really think youre argument holds water. <br /><br />(add to that that top players can meet earlier in ptc's)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-71494740419856355862011-10-21T00:09:13.961+01:002011-10-21T00:09:13.961+01:005.25 Dave h
Most of the ptcs have been won by the...5.25 Dave h <br />Most of the ptcs have been won by the top players? Depends how you define a top player. <br />By my calculations of the 19 ptcs so far only 9 have been won by players who were ranked in the top 16 at the time . <br />Anon 8.32 <br />Ptcs are harder to win for the top players by their format etc .<br />Ptcs are virtually always 10 to 1 the field whereas in normal ranking events it is about 5 to 1 the field .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-51468248594701507412011-10-20T22:02:30.391+01:002011-10-20T22:02:30.391+01:00Well I guess relative lottery is a better term. I...Well I guess relative lottery is a better term. I disagree with that now, but Snooker does have a very fine line between winners and losers with best of 7's (and even 9's) sometimes. When the field is strong you don't see dominance like you do with Tennis and Darts, and in PTC especially there has been a huge variance in later stage players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-22219498605295436522011-10-20T20:32:47.474+01:002011-10-20T20:32:47.474+01:00i disagree that ptcs are as hard as REAL rankers a...i disagree that ptcs are as hard as REAL rankers and i dont think they are comparible.<br /><br />thank you for admitting you were wrong<br /><br />28 still doesnt = 31 and some other REAL rankers are more frames than 31<br /><br />so, you were wrong the first time and your opinion is still well in the minority, going by most peoples opinions on popular snooker websites, blogs and on twitter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-42144597943608702652011-10-20T17:25:00.274+01:002011-10-20T17:25:00.274+01:00PTCs aren't a lottery. I could in theory win t...PTCs aren't a lottery. I could in theory win the lottery but if I entered a PTC I wouldn't have any chance of winning it.<br /><br />What they are is a leveller because they take away the advantages the top players usually enjoy.<br /><br />However, the top players are still winning most of them. Why? Because they're the best players.Dave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-47158919306335146462011-10-20T17:09:04.911+01:002011-10-20T17:09:04.911+01:00as for PTC frames being more, I admit, I was wrong...as for PTC frames being more, I admit, I was wrong.<br /><br />A PTC takes 4*7 frames to win (28 frames).<br /><br />Shanghai masters takes 31<br /><br />They are about equal, but PTC is 7 matches and PTC is harder to get through in terms of upsets.<br /><br />Regardless, the original point was that someone was knocking o'sullivan and saying PTC are not real rankers, and I stand by my point that they are every bit as "hard" as a normal ranker. They are comparable.<br /><br />It is desperation to say "Ronnie has only won" and then make excuses for anything that doesn't fit your criteria, including the Masters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-3423182643118619092011-10-20T17:04:09.568+01:002011-10-20T17:04:09.568+01:00That's funny Seifer, last year you were saying...That's funny Seifer, last year you were saying the PTCs were a lottery and a waste of time<br />-------<br /><br />You are correct. I did say they were a lottery and I do have serious misgivings about the rank points awarded. It is true that PTC make for shock wins but I have come to realise that is the nature of Snooker... the best players simply don't always win like they do with Tennis or Darts. Sometimes luck or run or a bit of loss of form can dictate a match when you have a best of 7. <br /><br />The only things wrong are: 1. points system is wrong across the board with all events not just PTC. 2. There are too many PTC. Point 2 is being addressed and thank god for that. next season they are down to 8 which is reasonable.<br /><br />Overall I have changed my view on PTC being useless lotteries. Yes, see, people can change their minds. They are just as difficult as a normal ranker because the extra matches balance out the difficulty.<br /><br />The real problem lies with lack of frames played. A shot clock would soon fix that in some of these PTC's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-45715138542385310092011-10-20T12:15:43.105+01:002011-10-20T12:15:43.105+01:00How do you think that will work out for you wild? ...How do you think that will work out for you wild? Do you think if you send up half the fee, the BBC will write back and politely ask you to only watch half the channels?Betty Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-9503399188525254442011-10-20T11:37:32.399+01:002011-10-20T11:37:32.399+01:00well cut backs to snooker will mean me cutting bac...well cut backs to snooker will mean me cutting back on paying my license fee.<br /><br />ive already considered cutting a quarter for the loss of the World Open but let that go any more cuts and ill be cutting down what they get from me.wildnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-42777645706826899942011-10-20T09:08:42.924+01:002011-10-20T09:08:42.924+01:00If Ronnie O'Sullivan continues to put the work...If Ronnie O'Sullivan continues to put the work in, he'll have a chance. <br />He's certainly too good a player not to have a chance.John McBridehttps://twitter.com/JohnMcBrideIREnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-661875472736056482011-10-20T08:53:25.311+01:002011-10-20T08:53:25.311+01:00That's funny Seifer, last year you were saying...That's funny Seifer, last year you were saying the PTCs were a lottery and a waste of time (as well as being disrespectful to those players who won PTC events). Soon as Ronnie starts winning them they're fully fledged ranking events!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-36044299656510413142011-10-20T07:14:23.930+01:002011-10-20T07:14:23.930+01:00Anonymous said...
who are you trying to kid seife...Anonymous said...<br /><br />who are you trying to kid seifer?<br /><br />a ptc isnt a full ranker, not in anyone book<br />-------<br /><br />Seifer Almasy said...<br /><br />See I find these kind of comments very short sighted, because to win a PTC requires more frames than a "major rank" event.<br />----------------<br /><br />thats not true!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-21095113581811825482011-10-20T01:41:08.175+01:002011-10-20T01:41:08.175+01:00OOOOOOOOOOO my giddy Aunt, please Dave change the ...OOOOOOOOOOO my giddy Aunt, please Dave change the blog photos, its sending my vertigo crazy!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-77337398488242547292011-10-19T23:59:51.518+01:002011-10-19T23:59:51.518+01:00Anon 9.54 dings record at the crucible is hardly a...Anon 9.54 dings record at the crucible is hardly anything to write home about only once has he been past the last 16Trevorpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-15559006169368402862011-10-19T22:40:52.378+01:002011-10-19T22:40:52.378+01:00Anonymous said...
who are you trying to kid s...Anonymous said...<br /><br /> who are you trying to kid seifer?<br /><br /> a ptc isnt a full ranker, not in anyone book<br />-------<br /><br />See I find these kind of comments very short sighted, because to win a PTC requires more frames than a "major rank" event. You have to win 7 matches too. In my book they are about the same. I would prefer better audience and coverage but that will come in time. <br /><br />Ronnie is the first person to win 2 PTC in same season, I don't think you are being fair in the slightest. Some of the Snooker he showed in PTC7 was godly, and in 1 tournament (was it PTC1) he equalled record 8 centuries for a PTC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-10186448518173394612011-10-19T22:31:59.887+01:002011-10-19T22:31:59.887+01:00Mark Williams is clearly the man to beat so far th...Mark Williams is clearly the man to beat so far this season: this is precisely what happened in the tournaments <i>that actually count</i>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-20086671996944644082011-10-19T21:54:15.316+01:002011-10-19T21:54:15.316+01:00I can't see Ronnie winning a World title in hi...I can't see Ronnie winning a World title in his 40's. <br /><br />Its been 2 years from he won a ranking event and nearly 3 years from he won a major. <br /><br />Higgins is way ahead of him at the minute and with the likes of Selby and Ding about its only going to get harder for Ronnie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-21697636018475014352011-10-19T20:51:33.641+01:002011-10-19T20:51:33.641+01:00If I had to tip one of the three - Williams, O'...If I had to tip one of the three - Williams, O'Sullivan, Higgins, all close in age, to be still be picking up major titles and possibly World title into their 40s then I'd have to put my 10p on John Higgins.<br /><br />People may write off the PTCs as minor events but I think it says quite a lot for Ronnie that (despite saying he dislikes them) he's still showed enough application to win two of them already this season.<br /><br />Another thing that comes with age is a lot of "mental scarring" from tough losses, missed shots etc. How a player copes with that can also have a bearing on their ability to keep winning.Janie Watkinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-47675213649417204482011-10-19T20:45:40.212+01:002011-10-19T20:45:40.212+01:00If Ronnie can win in his 40's then Higgins and...If Ronnie can win in his 40's then Higgins and Williams are just as likely to as well. I would rather see some new faces coming through though. I must say I have been rather dissapointed with the teenage talent out there. Brecel is having a terrible first season as a pro, the chances of him winning a ranking event age 17 seems very slim. It seems to be a feature in many sports these days that players achieve much later than they used to, like tennis for example. It is curious that this is happening in snooker as well, seeing as this is not such a physical sport.<br /><br />someblokefromthepub.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-9282615829298232242011-10-19T20:41:20.377+01:002011-10-19T20:41:20.377+01:00The UK Championship has been reduced for TV. If th...The UK Championship has been reduced for TV. If the BBC wanted the World Championship reduced then it would happen, although in my opinion that would be the time to look for another broadcaster.<br /><br />It would only happen if they no longer want to broadcast a 17-day tournament, and with the cuts coming to the corporation it isn't out of the question.Dave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-8084164428210498432011-10-19T20:36:03.490+01:002011-10-19T20:36:03.490+01:00The next thing i want to know is it inevitable the...The next thing i want to know is it inevitable the length of the world championships will be reduced like every tournament,including the uk championship.which we were told would never be touched.if it is reduced i think it will be easier for older players to win.i think it will be reduced in the next few years like all tournaments.do you think so dave with your insider contacts ?.Trevorpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-2037633869301386132011-10-19T20:35:35.513+01:002011-10-19T20:35:35.513+01:00Nobody's grandfather fought a war so that peop...Nobody's grandfather fought a war so that people could - anonymously - insult each other on a snooker blog<br /><br />And with 'freedom of speech' comes responsibility for what you sayDave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-81849643092671192942011-10-19T20:35:34.939+01:002011-10-19T20:35:34.939+01:00Nobody's grandfather fought a war so that peop...Nobody's grandfather fought a war so that people could - anonymously - insult each other on a snooker blog<br /><br />And with 'freedom of speech' comes responsibility for what you sayDave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.com