tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post4542064192242565789..comments2024-02-03T12:04:16.336+00:00Comments on SNOOKER SCENE BLOG: THE CRUCIBLE CONTENDERS: RONNIE O'SULLIVANDave Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-9707041143052736332013-04-18T21:52:14.693+01:002013-04-18T21:52:14.693+01:00Until they do, all the facts support Hendry as the...<i>Until they do, all the facts support Hendry as the greatest ever.</i><br /><br />Except they don't, do they? Joe Davis won more world championships, and Steve Davis won more pro titles, so the facts don't support the view that Hendry is the greatest any more than they support that Joe or Steve are the greatest.<br /><br />Between them, O'Sullivan, Higgins and Williams have been collectively a more dominant force than either of Hendry or Steve Davis, and no-one will ever know how their careers would have panned out if they had each had an era to themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-38783316348301637562013-04-17T23:30:44.806+01:002013-04-17T23:30:44.806+01:00Ronnie went to watch Dott-Selby? Wow, that is akin...Ronnie went to watch Dott-Selby? Wow, that is akin to masochism!Clausnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-56871890941855504312013-04-17T22:22:04.578+01:002013-04-17T22:22:04.578+01:00ronnies about 7 years younger than Hendry
what do...ronnies about 7 years younger than Hendry<br /><br />what do you mean different eras?<br /><br />ffs, theyre not 15 or 20 years apartAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-60534614354236735602013-04-17T21:47:48.520+01:002013-04-17T21:47:48.520+01:00Pinches ha ha ha !!!!Pinches ha ha ha !!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-8749519995177667652013-04-17T19:27:41.581+01:002013-04-17T19:27:41.581+01:00Ok, ok.
Each will appeal to different people for d...Ok, ok.<br />Each will appeal to different people for different reasons.<br />Nobody can argue with Hendry's record. A steadfast belief in his own ability coupled with a single minded determination resulted in snooker's greatest winner to date.<br />Having played at amateur level for close on 25 years, having made over 100+ century breaks along the way, when I first watched Hendry at a local club systematically destroying any and all opposition, including some if the finest amateurs for miles around, I knew that he was a very special talent indeed. That was 1985.<br />I followed his career with interest from that time all through his total domination throughout the '90's.<br />What he achieved was phenomenal.<br />Here's the but. When I watched Hendry compile a century, 147 even or pick up titles with apparent ease, it was always with a sense of admiration.<br />What I'm trying to say is, when I watch Ronnie flowing at his best, producing virtuoso snooker, I watch with a sense of total wonder, awe and amazement.<br />Perhaps it is unreasonable to declare who is the best on the basis of titles won, centuries made and so on, but in terms of pure theatre, panache, genius, call it what you will, then it's Ronnie. Every time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-85999815702824919212013-04-17T18:40:23.707+01:002013-04-17T18:40:23.707+01:00reply 6.04
Pinches aside Hendry for me is the gre...reply 6.04<br /><br />Pinches aside Hendry for me is the greatest but its easy to see why folk rate Ronald above him, if you wanna start talking maxes and centuries, Hendry made 775 and 11 max in 27 seasons, Ronald made 678 and 11 max in 20 seasons. Clearly Ronald's strike rate is better and you do not need to factor in possible future success, you can clearly see Ronnie is the most dominate break builder ever. As far as being a winner goes, its Hendry without a question, how can this be argued. I'm pretty sure that Hendry would admit that Ronald's best is better but its not all about that is it, Hendry had the biggest balls and consistency when it came to it and he's got the record to prove it.<br /><br />Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-24835902793582587282013-04-17T18:04:49.548+01:002013-04-17T18:04:49.548+01:00The telling thing in the Hendry v O'Sullivan &...The telling thing in the Hendry v O'Sullivan "Who's The Greatest?" debate is that those who say Hendry, support their case with facts, while those who say O'Sullivan, support theirs by presenting sweeping opinions as facts.<br /><br />"Quite simply, the best there has ever been"<br /><br />"Ronnie is without question the greatest break builder"<br /><br />"O'Sullivan's best is better than Hendry's"<br /><br />O'Sullivan backers also have a tendency to use predicted or even possible future achievements as part of their case.<br /><br />Maybe at some point in the future, O'Sullivan's achievements will surpass those of Hendry, but for now, they don't.<br /><br />Until they do, all the facts support Hendry as the greatest ever. That's why his supporters don't need to present vague opinion as fact.<br /><br />It seems to me that those who claim O'Sullivan as the greatest ever, don't remember how good Hendry was, never knew how good he was in the first place, or just have a blind faith in O'Sullivan and don't want to acknowledge anything which contradicts that view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-67790380343624711042013-04-17T18:03:05.885+01:002013-04-17T18:03:05.885+01:00It is worth pointing out that BBC Two are going to...It is worth pointing out that BBC Two are going to be on air at 10am throughout most of this year's tournament, which is positive news.<br /><br />It means during the first two sessions viewers will get a choice of tables for most of the day.<br /><br />jamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-31713529201516576292013-04-17T13:05:04.094+01:002013-04-17T13:05:04.094+01:00As soon as I saw this, superb as ever, entry by Da...As soon as I saw this, superb as ever, entry by Dave I knew how the comments would go.........<br /><br />I just hope O'Sullivan manages to find the personal health and happiness that's seemed to elude him. Being World Champion, or being compared to this player or that, matters little if you're struggling with your health. It's understandable that he missed what's been such a huge part of his life while away, but who knows if it isn't only absence that'll make his heart grow fond for it? Or whether back in the heat of competition, or on the grind of the circuit, that fondness may once more wilt.<br /><br />If he can find happiness whilst professional snooker is part of his life then so much the better for the game, if not he should focus on what will. I love snooker, and am on the very edge of my seat about what's coming, but it's just folk knocking a few balls about. We all have things in our life that make the game's importance pale by comparison.John Michael Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05669732896066104903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-70582210339095889362013-04-17T07:35:23.744+01:002013-04-17T07:35:23.744+01:00True, good pointTrue, good pointAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-21840012481218702672013-04-17T00:36:42.240+01:002013-04-17T00:36:42.240+01:00Stats don't tell the whole story. Jimmy was ne...Stats don't tell the whole story. Jimmy was never in the same league as Hendry, and Davis belonged to another era, so Hendry never had to go head to head with an equal in his era. Ronnie has had Higgins, and to some extent Mark Williams. It took Higgins to put out Ron in 2007 & 2011, while Higgins lost to Williams & Ron in 1999, 2000, 2001, so both players could feasibly have been on half a dozen world titles by now. The late 90s up to now has just been a tougher competitive period, and who wins what not only depends on how good you are but how good your opponents are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-61010978274841309842013-04-16T23:21:45.947+01:002013-04-16T23:21:45.947+01:00No mateNo mateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-24690926111947865842013-04-16T22:49:14.381+01:002013-04-16T22:49:14.381+01:00Would have to agree with Pinches - English Amateur...Would have to agree with Pinches - English Amateur champion at 17, runner up the year after, world amateur runner up from memory and a prolific pro am winner. There will never be another Pinches...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-29090813001155568992013-04-16T22:37:00.796+01:002013-04-16T22:37:00.796+01:00Another great article Dave.
My riposte is "...Another great article Dave. <br /><br />My riposte is "The Man's too Big, the Man's too Strong"...<br /><br />If Higgins could come back after a 6 month ban and win the UK and, later that season, the World Championships, then I think that Ronnie is surely good enough to do it. I believe that his toughest challenges will arise in the second round and the quarter final where he will be most vulnerable. If he can survive close 3 session matches, he will be very well-placed in the semi and the final. <br /><br />I am looking forward to some Rocket magic...perhaps something which usurps his awesome 92 clearance last year. <br /><br />The top 16 could be in dire straits this year (boom boom), but we, the fans, won't be.<br />_________________________<br />Dire Straits - The Man's Too Strong Lyrics(From: http://www.elyrics.net)<br /><br />Well I have tried to be meek<br />And I have tried to be mild<br />But I spat like a woman<br />And sulked like a child<br />I have lived behind walls<br />That have made me alone<br />Striven for peace<br />Which I have never known<br />And I can still hear his laughter<br />And I can still hear his song<br />The man's too big<br />The Man's Too Strong<br /> Colin Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-16701627490766058272013-04-16T22:17:01.656+01:002013-04-16T22:17:01.656+01:00I just asked Hendry and he said Pinches was the gr...I just asked Hendry and he said Pinches was the greatest, dunno what all this Ronnie/Hendry talk is all about. Ronnie will fancy his chances this year with Barry out of the mix. Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-81218573265946382642013-04-16T22:13:38.677+01:002013-04-16T22:13:38.677+01:00Ronnie has always had the troll's support whic...Ronnie has always had the troll's support which in fairness is not his fault.<br /><br />Hendry has more class, more ability and, most importantly, more titles than he ever will.A. Playernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-49675669270725985182013-04-16T22:05:42.709+01:002013-04-16T22:05:42.709+01:00The standard in the 90s was poor come on !! Would ...The standard in the 90s was poor come on !! Would hendry won as much world titles in this era I think not, he gets way too much credit beating desperate jimmy white in 4 finals who had no bottle and should of won 2 of them, nigel bond? Where's he now and boring Peter ebdon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-17744540366221391592013-04-16T22:01:01.616+01:002013-04-16T22:01:01.616+01:00Davis won more proffessional titles than hendry. R...Davis won more proffessional titles than hendry. Ronnie is without question the greatest break builder in the game he will soon overtake that he's only 80 odd behind and if he carries for another 5 years god knows what he will achieve with a clear head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-6086176693151753562013-04-16T21:27:44.177+01:002013-04-16T21:27:44.177+01:00Not modesty Wild more honesty on his behalf,he kno...Not modesty Wild more honesty on his behalf,he knows full well in his heart how good this man is and so does everyone else,if we are all too be honest. patnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-73507756164101263392013-04-16T21:21:31.904+01:002013-04-16T21:21:31.904+01:00Is the cue real gold Dave of just coated with Hamm...Is the cue real gold Dave of just coated with Hammerite gold paint?patnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-70848457958797649002013-04-16T19:41:25.587+01:002013-04-16T19:41:25.587+01:00If ROS did win it what does it say for the rest of...If ROS did win it what does it say for the rest of the players?Its a big ask to do it,but i agree Dave if anyone can Ronnie can.The Fishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-66758489446558644132013-04-16T18:54:47.767+01:002013-04-16T18:54:47.767+01:002.57...
Hendry has played sufficiently well, suff...2.57...<br /><br />Hendry has played sufficiently well, sufficient times in order to pick up more silverware than any other player thus far.<br />O'Sullivan's best is better than Hendry's.<br />While Hendry's consistency is to be admired, he himself has only ever referred to one player as a genius, Ronnie O'Sullivan.<br /><br />Ronnie's best v Stephens's best - Ronnie wins.<br />No question about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-30422786689542691732013-04-16T17:33:33.207+01:002013-04-16T17:33:33.207+01:00if i was hendry id say it as it is.
"im the ...if i was hendry id say it as it is.<br /><br />"im the greatest player there's ever been"<br /><br />but modesty doesn't allow him to say that wildnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-72145255919619893332013-04-16T16:51:39.108+01:002013-04-16T16:51:39.108+01:00Saw a report he was working on a farm. He said: &q...Saw a report he was working on a farm. He said: "'I get there about 8am, do my three or four-mile run first because it is right in the forest, then come back and do about six hours work. It has been kind of the opposite to what I was going through in snooker and I am really enjoying it.' <br /><br />Love the guy - really hope he wins.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08797670668432272829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-10620259316755615842013-04-16T15:25:46.440+01:002013-04-16T15:25:46.440+01:00If O'Sullivan can get thru his first match on ...If O'Sullivan can get thru his first match on saturday he will not play his second match for, I think another week. Then if he were to win the event he would play solidly for the rest of the event. This is a massive plus for him as he has said in previous years it is hard to concentrate for 17 days. So I reckon he can treat the second week as just a normal week long event. For this reason he could win it at a cantor or come very close<br /><br />NickyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com