tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post7847986993702118543..comments2024-02-03T12:04:16.336+00:00Comments on SNOOKER SCENE BLOG: GIRLS JUST WANNA HAVE FUNDSDave Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-30898546956688858012010-04-10T23:48:45.760+01:002010-04-10T23:48:45.760+01:00I agree about the negativity of the ladies' ga...I agree about the negativity of the ladies' game, Janie. Personally, I always go for the pot, not the safety; just a pity it doesn't tend to go in!<br /><br />Ah well, you can't put in what natural talent left out.<br /><br />Poor old Reanne, eh? She should have come along in the 80s and 90s, when there was still a chance that women's snooker might go global. But once Allison left, and the others began to follow ... <br /><br />Times may change though. Just not sure how they could. Women's snooker needs a whizz promoter with energy and vision. Any suggestions?Jane Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15590668593487445482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-75921978607972719102010-04-10T21:40:46.985+01:002010-04-10T21:40:46.985+01:00Women on the World Ladies Billiards & Snooker ...Women on the World Ladies Billiards & Snooker Association circuit are not expected to play in men’s evening wear.<br /><br />The rules allow long dresses, etc. <br /><br />It is their choice.<br /><br />TimTim Dunkleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-81677654967285936002010-04-09T18:03:51.340+01:002010-04-09T18:03:51.340+01:00Why is it that in most reports about the women whe...Why is it that in most reports about the women when Maria is mentioned her relative Ronnie is too?<br /><br />Youd think with his track record of doing "bad things" that that would be the last person shed want continually mentioned with. I would...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-77509969061882628552010-04-09T15:06:06.588+01:002010-04-09T15:06:06.588+01:00we all know you meant Ronnie was sexy, Jamie ;)we all know you meant Ronnie was sexy, Jamie ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-34671949553768535032010-04-09T14:09:00.237+01:002010-04-09T14:09:00.237+01:00do you want them in bikinis, 1201?do you want them in bikinis, 1201?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-6309286655381272232010-04-09T14:02:06.473+01:002010-04-09T14:02:06.473+01:00As you can see I laughed off the insult which I do...As you can see I laughed off the insult which I don't think was intended as malicious. I knew I had opened myself up for a remark like that. <br /><br />I don't bring it up so much now snooker, I meantjamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-55177046454096709192010-04-09T12:01:30.578+01:002010-04-09T12:01:30.578+01:00One thing about the women's game that I cannot...One thing about the women's game that I cannot understand is the dress code. <br /><br />A lady would never attend a black tie event wearing black tie. The dress code of formal private members clubs (from where the dress code for the mens game presumably emanates) would almost certainly have prohibited women from wearing trousers.<br /><br />So why are female snooker players expected to wear mens evening wear?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-43302802686772019862010-04-09T11:46:38.390+01:002010-04-09T11:46:38.390+01:00Snooker © The Fine Art Method
A secret is wasted ...Snooker © The Fine Art Method <br />A secret is wasted if not shared<br />Dear Janie and Hello Dave<br />How are you both! Thanks again Dave for the posts on the “Fine Art” method. About being too late Janie for new ideas as a player, it is not too late lass to advise youngsters and others from making the same wrong choices.<br /><br />Old Jack was very dogmatic and was so wrong about the “Quarter Body Twist” of look right and play aligned left. Plus the empty match box routine adopted which is really detrimental to accurate addressing and cueing.<br /><br />I can’t help remarking (factiously) Janie on the coaching lark you were very unlucky lass. You seemed to start off badly and then fell away.<br />The road to snooker perfection Janie is full of good intentions. No player or coach would intentionally give you a “Bum Steer” but having a certificate or a snooker title is very impressive to most youngsters.<br /><br />Another old chestnut Janie “Going through the Spots” as a cueing exercise! Tell the girls Janie that it becomes easy by using only the middle of the cue “Tip”. Students always hit the middle of the object ball. Mr hey youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-71434474582991009692010-04-09T06:52:49.297+01:002010-04-09T06:52:49.297+01:00Janie, are you not still left handed and 5'4&q...Janie, are you not still left handed and 5'4"?<br /><br />you seem to suggest you used to be....<br /><br />also, i think women should play to win and if their strength is safety then they should do what they are good at....and not what people like to see.<br /><br />the time we dictate to players what shots or style they play is the day the game dies as we would all be watching the same thing, every match.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-52392311676384595622010-04-09T01:04:59.391+01:002010-04-09T01:04:59.391+01:00To Mr Hey You
Thanks for the tips. Sadly about tw...To Mr Hey You<br /><br />Thanks for the tips. Sadly about twenty five years too late for me<br /><br />I actually learned to cue on "said" kitchen table, by cueing through a match box, and it required straight cueing to get straight through the matchbox lid without touching the sides.<br /><br />Also I was extremely privileged to be coached by your favourite coach Terry Griffiths. Never ever did Griff have a cue in his hand and show the shot or say do it like this.<br /><br />My first experience of a coach was a six foot five, one eyed, right handed coach - I was five foot four and left handed - it was not a happy relationship.<br /><br />I never had a problem with "upper chest proportions" - sadly!<br /><br />You may know that the Berkshire Club was owned by Jack Karnehm in those days and we were taught "the Karnehm" method - which basically meant attempting to dislocate your hip on every shot as you tried to get sideways on - sideways is great for cricketers but not for snooker players!<br /><br />Since having both eye and back problems I had to adapt to a square on stance.<br /><br />All of which is slightly off topic!<br /><br />Back on topic I think some bloggers are comparing ladies snooker with mens snooker. We don't compare football or tennis like for like and same for Ladies snooker, there is absolutely no reason why there shouldn't be a flourishing ladies circuit around the world in its own right.<br /><br />One message I would plead to my fellow lady players is to ditch the negativity before they kill the game.<br /><br />The most successful lady players such as Reanne Evans, Kelly Fisher, Karen Corr etc all played an attacking "go for the game" type of snooker.<br />Sadly many ladies around the world still play the safety first approach which died out in the 1980s and is like a dirge to watch and wreck schedules of all the international events.Janie Watkinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-73712148071885145442010-04-08T19:33:43.608+01:002010-04-08T19:33:43.608+01:00Snooker © The Fine Art Method
A secret is wasted ...Snooker © The Fine Art Method <br />A secret is wasted if not shared<br />Dear Janie Watkins and Hello Dave<br />Thanks for the plug Janie! As you know lass the lovely upper structure of female players is no longer a serious handicap to the girls acquiring a correct cue action.<br /><br />To repeat Janie! Push the cue through the nest of the bridge hand and always “Brushing Past” (without touching) the chest or breast. Lock the cue arm at the elbow to complete the cue action.<br /><br />A point to note Janie is: A snooker cue not touching the wood, the rubber or the bridge nest is an uncontrolled one handed swing of the cue probable to the light shade.<br /><br />These wee tips Janie are best practiced at home on the kitchen table (without embarrassment) with a cue or brush handle. <br />The potting and positional play is very easy but only to a “Good Student” showing complete reliance on a snooker technique. Have ago Janie but not for commercial use. Mr hey youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-76339272909195838892010-04-08T17:50:11.051+01:002010-04-08T17:50:11.051+01:00Make your mind up Brannon at 2:48pm "I tell y...Make your mind up Brannon at 2:48pm "I tell young women I love snooker and tell them it is a sexy sport"<br /><br />5:28pm you "avoid talking snooker"<br /><br />Has Dave's insult hurt you so badly that your forgetting things..<br /><br />Man up Jamie lad have a pop back at Dave ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-32760968025487318032010-04-08T17:28:05.720+01:002010-04-08T17:28:05.720+01:00Come on Dave that is a bit personal!! My touch wit...Come on Dave that is a bit personal!! My touch with the ladies is never in doubt, I just generally avoid talking snooker!jamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-53208646769285039302010-04-08T17:13:30.615+01:002010-04-08T17:13:30.615+01:00Snooker © The Fine Art Method
A secret is wasted ...Snooker © The Fine Art Method <br />A secret is wasted if not shared<br />Hello Dave <br />Thanks for the plug lad but most of all Dave thanks for the post, you are very kind. It is nice to see so many responses on the blog, especially from lady players.<br /><br />About lady coaches Dave! There was nothing sexual in my inference on men coaches. My meaning is that men coaches are still teaching the old fashioned “Watch Me” now and I’ll show you again method first introduced by Joe Davis during the 19-45 war years.<br /><br />To All female players by all means wear sexy slacks and jeans but still retain your own distinctive feminine attire. Cosmetics and lingerie is a bigger sponsor than tobacco and alcohol.<br /><br />The game of snooker is really easy to a dedicated student; but hard for any person that wants to play like Mr A, B, C or D. The game is detailed enough to be an “O” and “A” level sport subject in high schools of the future. <br />Thanks again Dave for the plug. Mr hey youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-18836864142553516182010-04-08T16:47:40.746+01:002010-04-08T16:47:40.746+01:00I beleive this was a feat also accumplished in the...I beleive this was a feat also accumplished in the 2001/02 season. Well done Reanne Evens. As a fellow snooker annarack, David, can you please confirm if my statistics are correct? Cheers mate. <br />JAMIE!JAMIE O'REILLYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-15209144786704343442010-04-08T15:56:35.024+01:002010-04-08T15:56:35.024+01:00Actually, I'm a 38 yr old woman and people do ...Actually, I'm a 38 yr old woman and people do look at me like I'm a weirdo if I tell them I'm a snooker fan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-69106590998004536172010-04-08T15:40:09.512+01:002010-04-08T15:40:09.512+01:00That might just be you, JamieThat might just be you, JamieDave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-74689312318419641282010-04-08T14:48:08.815+01:002010-04-08T14:48:08.815+01:00I don't see Mr Hey You's comment. Is Reann...I don't see Mr Hey You's comment. Is Reanne's acheivement that remarkable though? The best female players went off to play pool. It's like when Joe Davis won fifteen straight world titles, it is impressive, but he had hardly any serious competitors.<br /><br />I would doubt that research into female followers, particulary young women. When I tell young women I love snooker and tell them it is a sexy sport they either laugh or look at you weird.jamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-72946058581288272292010-04-08T14:12:11.409+01:002010-04-08T14:12:11.409+01:00@southerner:
13 year old Hannah Jones entered thi...@southerner:<br /><br />13 year old Hannah Jones entered this years Pontins Junior Festival and qualified for the knockout stages losing to the evetual winner of the event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-88448258311297649202010-04-08T14:03:44.581+01:002010-04-08T14:03:44.581+01:00Dave and Janie - what have you done? You'll ne...Dave and Janie - what have you done? You'll never shut him up now!<br /><br />But I agree with your sentiments, in any male dominated arena it is going to be difficult for women to be taken seriously, but that said, determination and natural talent can make up for it. The bottom line is that results and performances grab attention no matter who you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-70081383807448265442010-04-08T13:42:07.286+01:002010-04-08T13:42:07.286+01:00In the modern age of sexual equality, in a game wh...In the modern age of sexual equality, in a game where physical strength is no advantage, I cannot see why women need their own circuit in the first place.<br /><br />I mean, you might as well have a circuit for redheads, or black people, or short people.<br /><br />The only difference is that any of the latter 3 would be played at a far higher standard.<br /><br />I feel a level of sympathy for Reanne Evans, 6 world titles and all that, but I also feel preferential treatment should not be meted out on grounds of sex, anymore than colour or size.<br /><br />Overall the standard of womens snooker is not much higher than the average club standard, and until this changes, theres unlikely to be a female presence on the main tourKILDARE CUEMANnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-42741704327390573422010-04-08T13:29:38.623+01:002010-04-08T13:29:38.623+01:00Whey hey, I agree with Mr Hey You.
Historically f...Whey hey, I agree with Mr Hey You.<br /><br />Historically for the ladies it's been a numbers game and lack of opportunity.<br /><br />When I first started playing we could go into the new snooker clubs, but were barred from many of the traditional venues, like Workies, Institutes, Lab and Con clubs etc.<br /><br />that prevented us playing in the local leagues, a learning ground in those days for many players.<br /><br />Even in the club I played in, The old Berkshire Club in Windsor, which strongly supported Ladies snooker to such an extent that we had a weekly Ladies Day, even there down in the main hall we were in a minority ratio of about 1 to 100.<br /><br />Mr Hey You is right about the bending over the table bit. One always felt people were watching you as some sort of freak in the club. It was an intimidating atmosphere and many of the lady players have had to run the gauntlet of discrimination, sexist comments and behaviour. It's not surprising that many didn't carry on with the sport.<br /><br />Nowadays it's all far more open. But harking back to the days when WPBSA took over ladies snooker. Because of the minimum age limit of 16 in an event, we lost an entire generation of players.<br /><br />And that shows up very clearly today. We have the "senior" players still competing and just a few new under 16s. There are very few players in their late teens and early 20s because they couldn't enter the events for a number of years.<br /><br />There are qualified lady coaches around, sadly some have given up, or in the case of Karen Corr, who was a wpbsa coach, are in USA now trying to make a living.<br /><br />Personally I don't see any problem with being coached by the men. All coaches who've been properly trained and certificated have had CRB checks and been properly instructed in etiquette.<br /><br />The coaches who work in schools and run junior classes are one of the main recruiting grounds to bring more girls into the sport.<br /><br />But it's also about role models. I never even conceived that women played snooker until, back in 1983, I saw a mixed doubles event on Grandstand. Even then I didn't know where to play until the Berkshire club advertised in the local paper to host a Ladies Day.<br /><br />It's always been a thorny topic about why the girls aren't as good as the men. As obviously there is no physical strength reasons involved. People claim (rightly in my case!) that girls don't have the same degree of spacial awareness (eg we can't park a car, well I can't!) and some claim women don't have the same mental strengths in adversity. <br /><br />I discount that claim as I don't recall men ever having to suffer period pains or giving birth!<br /><br />It is certainly true that there's more "wastage" amongst women players. Mainly due to family and work commitments. Even today the fellas can come home from work, find dinner on the table and then go out to the snooker club for the evening. Many women are having to stay home to cook that dinner and looks after the kids etc<br /><br />Reanne's achievement is all the greater because she is a mum as well as a player.<br /><br />I'm not making excuses for the girls, just pointing out some of the obvious problems that have plagued the sport for many years.<br /><br />Over to Mr Hey You!Janie Watkinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-55412297814265725912010-04-08T13:01:08.919+01:002010-04-08T13:01:08.919+01:00Stand back everyone...Mr hey you is correct!
The ...Stand back everyone...Mr hey you is correct!<br /><br />The culture, certainly in the UK, was not only unwelcoming to girls and women but sometimes completely discriminatory, hence fewer took up the game<br /><br />Snooker, though, has a greater percentage of female followers than most other sports if the research is to be believedDave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-10832373137389521142010-04-08T12:51:18.915+01:002010-04-08T12:51:18.915+01:00women circuit in snooker is so uninteresting that ...women circuit in snooker is so uninteresting that I wouldn't expect it to have funds in the futureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-41867143524557353442010-04-08T12:38:05.540+01:002010-04-08T12:38:05.540+01:00Eh? Girls playing snooker? How long has this been ...Eh? Girls playing snooker? How long has this been going on then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com