tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post8442368116869941626..comments2024-02-03T12:04:16.336+00:00Comments on SNOOKER SCENE BLOG: THE RANKINGS: MAKING THINGS A LITTLE CLEARERDave Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-51555862004137660642010-06-18T23:41:01.323+01:002010-06-18T23:41:01.323+01:00@ Janie Watkins - tippex? get with the program gr...@ Janie Watkins - tippex? get with the program grandma.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-87766897510389252902010-06-18T15:54:18.715+01:002010-06-18T15:54:18.715+01:00They won't be on TV but there's a good cha...They won't be on TV but there's a good chance the later events will be streamed on the webDave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-23468894765863646632010-06-18T15:23:13.111+01:002010-06-18T15:23:13.111+01:00David, do you know if there will be any TV coverag...David, do you know if there will be any TV coverage of the new events?<br /><br />I hope Perform buy the Players Tour ChampionshipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-9060652927839199692010-06-15T06:23:30.128+01:002010-06-15T06:23:30.128+01:00It's great that the rankings are finally being...It's great that the rankings are finally being overhauled, it is long overdue! However, one age old anomaly remains: points are earned over 2 years, whilst promotion/relegation takes place every season!<br /><br />So what happens to the following players: Tony Drago, Bjorn Haneveer, Jimmy Robertson, Michael White, James Wattana, Anda Zhang, Ben Woollaston & Joe Jogia.....who all kept their tour places after successful 2009-10 seasons, but have NO points from the counting events for 2008-9 which will be included in Octobers new ranking list?<br /><br />Also, what will happen to this group of players: Paul Davison, Jamie Jones, Liu Chuang, Kuldesh Johal, James McBain & Andrew Pagett who are promoted to the tour this season (and therefore have NO points from the 2009-10 season to count), but who ALL HAVE POINTS from the last five events of the 2008-9 season?? Will their points be included? <br /><br />As far as I can see, either we have a one year rolling list, or we stop restricting points to the 96 tour players, because any "starting points" formula is going to prove a headache!JIMO96noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-31392990034922044922010-06-11T10:36:44.873+01:002010-06-11T10:36:44.873+01:00So, the seedings have already been done for Shangh...So, the seedings have already been done for Shanghai Masters and World Open?<br />And is John Higgins in it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-55499205359977170392010-06-11T09:06:55.750+01:002010-06-11T09:06:55.750+01:00re starter points I think we will have to wait til...re starter points I think we will have to wait till the WSA release some details themselves for it to be clarifiedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-17413046226072131302010-06-11T00:57:48.669+01:002010-06-11T00:57:48.669+01:00hi dave,
point taken. and am only going on the la...hi dave,<br /><br />point taken. and am only going on the last one in sheffield.<br /><br />seats that weren't taken were available in most matches. they hadn't been booked at all i presume.<br /><br />thanks, joeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-18960880885125683912010-06-10T23:10:09.899+01:002010-06-10T23:10:09.899+01:00Joe, I didn't say the Crucible was always an a...Joe, I didn't say the Crucible was always an absolute sell out, I said you could 'pretty much sell it out,' which is true because the vast majority of World Championship tickets are bought in advance of the tournament<br /><br />Some tickets get returned, hence they are available during the tournamentDave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-54230170830359764742010-06-10T23:10:09.900+01:002010-06-10T23:10:09.900+01:00with respect does it matter about amateur calender...with respect does it matter about amateur calenders they now have more opportunity if they want to chose play amateur events or enter pro events so amateur players are on to a win win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-9715797747481606442010-06-10T22:20:52.445+01:002010-06-10T22:20:52.445+01:00Excellent point raised by the second anonymous pos...Excellent point raised by the second anonymous poster regarding the starter points, I was wondering about that myself today too.Matthttp://prosnookerblog.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-66783962906349759242010-06-10T21:44:39.783+01:002010-06-10T21:44:39.783+01:00The rankings could be up-in-the-air if John Higgin...The rankings could be up-in-the-air if John Higgins matches are all nullified.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-65367268371595918432010-06-10T21:07:56.083+01:002010-06-10T21:07:56.083+01:00so is the first rankings update actually after the...so is the first rankings update actually after the euro tour championship and not the world open is that right?.Trevorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08457185092996449732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-26300634326916694152010-06-10T20:31:32.017+01:002010-06-10T20:31:32.017+01:00The national, international and pro am calendars a...The national, international and pro am calendars are already providing major headaches!<br /><br />Nice headaches to have but buy lots of tippex, you may need it if you're an event planner!<br /><br />Already we need to know the proposed start date for 2011-12 season so that NGBs and International bodies can plan ahead and ensure they've completed all events in good time.<br /><br />In an ideal world everyone would finish before the Q School but that would mean the European Assoc trying to find some dates to bring forward the Euro Champs by over a month, which will cause all sorts of problems.<br /><br />My advice to any NGB doing calendar planning at the moment is to try and bring your calendar forward to start in at least August this year so that there's not going to be so much congestion in April and May next year, and not least the calls on the players' time and money.<br /><br />Countries like England, Wales, Ireland etc who will still have a main tour place, really need to resolve all their events before the closing date for Q School entries. A player will be pretty *** off if they pay money to enter Q School only to end up as their countries Number One or Champion and an MT place secured.<br /><br />The same applies to Asian, Europe, Oceania, IBSF etc who have nomination places.<br /><br />Hopefully WSA have now finished jiggling around with the dates.<br />I know of one event organiser who's already changed dates three times because of the WSA calendar.Janie Watkinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-12944190841422198922010-06-10T19:47:48.447+01:002010-06-10T19:47:48.447+01:00It is becoming clear that the
two-year rolling lis...It is becoming clear that the<br />two-year rolling list has been implemented to 'soften the blow'<br />of the new provisional seedings.<br /><br />It is a compromised fudge of sorts.<br /><br />I agree with Witz 78 that a<br />one-year rolling list with<br />updated provisional seedings would have been more radical & the<br />more progressive option.<br /><br />Kildare Cueman - Current form will get rewarded for a more favourable<br />draw/entry into events - I agree with that aspect very much.<br /><br />However,for tour newcomers,the<br />2 year list makes it tougher to stay in the top 64 for next May.<br /><br />So tour newcomers have to participate in alot of PTC events,<br />to avoid this eventuality.<br /><br />Everyone's a winner !CHRISK5noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-1278347713241016852010-06-10T19:36:23.350+01:002010-06-10T19:36:23.350+01:00Witz-
Paul Davies won't lose any points until...Witz-<br /><br />Paul Davies won't lose any points until AFTER the world open.<br /><br />By then he will have had a chance to defend the points he will be surrendering.KILDARE CUEMANnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-21317993564930891312010-06-10T19:18:44.876+01:002010-06-10T19:18:44.876+01:00I like it and that is what counts.
I can't im...I like it and that is what counts.<br /><br />I can't imagine the players who fail to see the logic in this change of the system.<br /><br />Remember Rodney Walker whenever we hear whining about Hearns' wrongdoings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-16121093021072739392010-06-10T19:18:44.875+01:002010-06-10T19:18:44.875+01:00Dave,
That isn't true about the world champio...Dave,<br /><br />That isn't true about the world championships selling out. Final and quarter finals sell out. U can get tickets for early sessions of the semis.<br /><br />As for the rest (1st/2nd round games), bar matches involving O'Sullivan and possibly eithers (depending on who they're playing,) these games NEVER sell out.<br /><br />The Crucible website had tickets on offer all the time for the first week. It's a huge myth about the world championships selling out - they don't! no different to early rounds of other competitions.<br /><br />Thanks, joeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-10365433142583467402010-06-10T18:29:12.040+01:002010-06-10T18:29:12.040+01:00It will be interesting to see how they handle the ...It will be interesting to see how they handle the cut-offs - the World Open is in September while the Grand Prix was in October so technically the Grand Prix points from two years ago should stay on the list when it is revised after the World Open, because it falls within the 2 year period.<br /><br />I like the Masters, it's a sort of best-of-the-best tournament and the rolling rankings are going to make the line-up kind of arbitrary. Maybe they could change the criteria to the last 16 players to win tournaments or something, at least then it would live up to its name.Betty Logannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-84144894677629525942010-06-10T17:55:17.982+01:002010-06-10T17:55:17.982+01:00Dave,
thats true, does that mean then that the Cr...Dave,<br /><br />thats true, does that mean then that the Crucible tickets wont be on sale then until the seedings are known after the Welsh Open as they will sell out anyway or did u mean that even selling them in December when no-one knows who they will be wathcing wont affect the sales?<br /><br />ChrisK5<br /><br />As far as the tour newcomers go, id imagine they will be given the points that the 64th man last years 64th place man Paul Davies did (12,253)<br /><br />Of course, Paul will instantly lose his points earned in the Shanghai Masters and Grand Prix of the 2008/09 season.<br /><br />For the tour newcomers id imagine some sort of proportional pro-rata of their total starter points will be deducted and they will then chase the new points.<br /><br />Will be a bit unfair on the tour newcomers as because its a 2 year rolling ranking and not a 1 year system, they will still be carrying the burden of the minimum starter points with them into next season, so yet again will have to excel to progress up the rankings.<br /><br />At least if they get into the top 64 they will straight away be thrust into the next ladder of qualifiers rather than being stuck on the bottom rung all season.<br /><br />Hopefully eventually a one year rollinmg ranking system will be employed.Witz78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-68282729331583720462010-06-10T17:42:18.791+01:002010-06-10T17:42:18.791+01:00Jamie - If the 2 year list turns out to be everybo...Jamie - If the 2 year list turns out to be everybody's starter allocation - then John Higgins<br />has a near 10,000 pts advantage <br />over his nearest rivals.<br /><br />He would have an outside chance of <br />being eligible for the Masters -<br />even if he were absent from most or all events in the months ahead !CHRISK5noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-27848674704397343062010-06-10T17:31:45.926+01:002010-06-10T17:31:45.926+01:00Chrisk5-
Ding will start the season as no 5 and w...Chrisk5-<br /><br />Ding will start the season as no 5 and will be seeded number 5 until after the world open.<br /><br />After the WO his points gained this season will be added to his total.<br /><br />The points he had from the start of the 2008-09 season until the grand prix will be eliminated.<br /><br />Yes, the players who performed badly then and do well now will benefit and vice versa.<br /><br />Thats the way we want it, isn't it, with current form being rewarded.KILDARE CUEMANnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-14579481614100183172010-06-10T17:20:17.629+01:002010-06-10T17:20:17.629+01:00I had heard Hearn was thinking of moving from Wemb...I had heard Hearn was thinking of moving from Wembley. I kind of support this new system, although I'm not sure it makes things more clearer for a wider snooker audience.<br /><br />What Happens though if Higgins has the ban lifted at say the UK Championship, will he have a protected ranking, or as I would imagine, just hope that he is in the top 16 still when he returns. <br /><br />I actually thought at one point everyone was going to start on zero points!!jamie brannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01668254365608375328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-58841720624427967662010-06-10T17:08:39.825+01:002010-06-10T17:08:39.825+01:00witz - The Crucible will pretty much sell out when...witz - The Crucible will pretty much sell out whenever the tickets go on sale<br /><br />I'd imagine World Snooker would want a little longer to sell tickets for the more cavernous Wembley ArenaDave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08037719321756898982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-76534169721451662342010-06-10T16:46:27.958+01:002010-06-10T16:46:27.958+01:00>>Well, I think it would be better, if the s...>>Well, I think it would be better, if the seeding for The Masters was made according to the revision after the UK. <br /><br />Don't forget about wildcards!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29605452.post-62982127243538709982010-06-10T16:33:46.997+01:002010-06-10T16:33:46.997+01:00A lot of national associations will have a few hea...A lot of national associations will have a few headaches this year with the calender the way it is.<br />Dont get me wrong I love the fact the players have more events or are being made to play more events.<br /><br />However take Ireland for example, our Irish championships is always played over two weekends in May. This will now have to come forward to finish before the 11th May so we know who our No.1 is and enable our players to compete in both.<br /><br />A lot of calenders will now have to fit around this and national seasons might now be more condensed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com