13.2.09

LIFE DOWN THE RANKINGS

If you ever wondered how tough it is down at the lower end of the rankings, read this story in the Paisley Express about Scott MacKenzie.

Players have to win two matches in ranking tournaments to earn any money and making a living is a hard slog.

And with dwindling sponsorship, it's surely going to get worse before it gets better.

17 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:25 pm

    Very interesting article.

    This bit has me scratching my head though:

    MacKenzie said: “It’s still the third most popular sport in Britain but there’s a lack of money at the top of the sport so you can imagine what it’s like for the rest of us.

    Third most popular?

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  2. Anonymous10:44 pm

    No doubt the WPBSA will be fining him for being honest, erm. I mean not showing the sport in a positive light!

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  3. Anonymous8:04 am

    1. Phil Taylor £510,658
    2. James Wade £310,159
    3. Raymond v Barneveld £267,800
    4. John Part £188,012
    5. Terry Jenkins £136,556
    6. Mervyn King £128,504
    7. Adrian Lewis £122,721
    8. Wayne Mardle £121,999
    9. Andy Hamilton £109,294
    10. Colin Lloyd £107,121
    11. Dennis Priestley £106,101
    12. Alan Tabern £105,401
    13. Ronnie Baxter £100,061
    14. Peter Manley £ 97,185
    15. Colin Osborne £ 89,604
    16. Kevin Painter £ 88,604

    And not so long ago this sport was always 2nd fiddle to snooker.

    Wake up and smell the coffee.

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  4. Anonymous9:26 am

    id like to see that list extend down to at least 75 (if possble) please.

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  5. Anonymous10:31 am

    Its taken from SkySports where they only list the Top 16.

    Mr Hearn does have a habit of only talking of winners, not "Also Rans".

    Sounds harsh, but hey, thats business.

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  6. Anonymous10:31 am

    Its taken from SkySports where they only list the Top 16.

    Mr Hearn does have a habit of only talking of winners, not "Also Rans".

    Sounds harsh, but hey, thats business.

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  7. Anonymous12:59 pm

    The full PDC darts list can be found here:

    http://www.pdc.tv/page/PDCOrderofMerit/0,,10180,00.html

    The world number 75 in the PDC has £8,296 on the order of merit.

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  8. Anonymous1:00 pm

    The PDC Order of Merit is based on 2 years of prize money, with money 'lost' on the two year anniversary of the event. I have no idea why it's two years.

    Anyway, using dartsdatabase.co.uk, a query based on earnings from all PDC ranking events from 07/01/2008 - 14/01/2009 (basically ending at the WC last month) shows the following:

    60 Nick Fulwell England £6,550
    61 Michael Barnard England £6,100
    62 Remco van Eijden Holland £5,933
    63 Steve Grubb England £5,875
    64 Russell Stewart Australia £5,600
    65 Warren French New Zealand £5,600
    66 Hannes Schnier Austria £5,430
    67 Colin Monk England £5,383
    68 Charles Losper South Africa £5,300
    69 Mark Stephenson England £5,200
    70 Lionel Sams England £5,100
    71 Marko Kantele Finland £5,000
    72 Per Laursen Denmark £5,000
    73 Shi Yongsheng China £5,000
    74 Nandor Bezzeg Hungary £5,000
    75 Steve Hine England £4,797
    76 Ray Carver USA £4,600
    77 Steve Brown England £4,455
    78 Simon Whatley England £4,400
    79 Sam Rooney England £4,375
    80 Alan Warriner-Little England £4,225
    81 Mark Lawrence England £4,150
    82 Dave Askew England £4,025
    83 Steve Evans Wales £3,683
    84 Kevin Dowling England £3,608
    85 Roger Carter USA £3,600
    86 Shawn Brenneman Canada £3,450
    87 John Ferrell England £3,375
    88 Steve Smith England £3,050
    89 Shane O Connor Ireland £3,025
    90 John Kuczynski USA £2,850
    91 Larry Butler USA £2,825
    92 Jason Clark Scotland £2,783
    93 Anastasia Dobromyslova Russia £2,700
    94 Martyn Turner England £2,675
    95 Darren Johnson England £2,625
    96 Martin Burchell England £2,575
    97 Ben Burton England £2,533
    98 Lourence Ilagan Philippines £2,500
    99 Sudesh Fitzgerald Guyana £2,500
    100 Akahiro Nakagawa Japan £2,500

    Not fortunes by any means, but it still goes some way to covering some of the expenses for the year.

    Interesting to see at #93 Anastasia Dobromyslova, the Russian female player. You can call it a marketing gimmick, but she's shown she can compete. Just wondering if and World Snooker allow female players to compete?

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  9. Anonymous1:37 pm

    i dont think that theres that much difference between the person in the "exact same" numerical position in darts as scott is.

    at least, we are not talking sustainable income.

    in darts those from 60 down dont make a "job" income and the most part of them will not be sponsored with any great amount (the majority, not them all)

    so, even though the top flight of darts is sky high at the moment, it seems that those in the 50 or lower bracket dont make a living at it.

    tennis and snooker are different, but when you consider how popular darts is at present against how lowly their players get "paid" when not high in the rankings then its no surprise snooker players at that position dont get too much money

    think scott is a butcher also? or helps?

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  10. Anonymous1:44 pm

    Yeah I believe that is the case.

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  11. Anonymous7:38 pm

    It would help snooker greatly if the money was split a bit more evenly between ranking events instead of having a massive fund for the WC (did the winner get £250k last year?) and far smaller prize funds for 'less esteemed' events.

    This is what appears to happen in darts, with Taylor receiving only! £125k last month for winning the WC, although the prize money is due to increase substantially over the next 3/4 years for this particular event.

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  12. Anonymous8:28 pm

    i agree the pot could be split more evenly but in the case of the WC i would leave it as is, as i dont like to think of the "worth" of the WC going backowards too much, even if it stays still (which would only mean a comparaive year on year drop)

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  13. Anonymous11:22 am

    There's another bit in that interview that leaves me scratching my head. MacKenzie says he got a good draw for the Worlds. Well unless he's looking at a different draw sheet to me I notice he's playing Judd Trump in round 3. I can save him the expsense of travelling now and tell him he's got no chance of qualifying. He'll be lucky to beat Joe Delaney in Round 2. Unfortunately there's a lot of deluded players out there who time would have been better spent studying at school.

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  14. Anonymous11:30 am

    very easy to be funny and cheeky with the benefit of hindsight Rich.

    Just shows you want kind of person you are

    Knowing Scott myself i can assure you he is a polite unassuming guy who has worked hard at his game.

    No player knows for sure when they are 14 if they will make it to the top 16, and obvioulsy very few do make it there where the "job" money is, so youre just a wee bit out of order with that comment IMHO

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  15. Here are some statistics from the past two seasons on the WSA Main tour WSA have put £650,000 of their own money into the tour over the last two seasons .Almost all of this has gone into the latter rounds.
    PRIZE MONEY SHARE (APPROXIMATELY) 2006-2007 SEASON. TOTAL £3.26 MILLION
    Players ranked 1-16 £2,200,000 AVERAGE £137,500 HIGHEST £288,000 LOWEST £52,000 (over 2/3rds of £3.26 MILLION total prize money)

    17-32 £500,000 AVERAGE £31,250
    33-48 £350,000 AVERAGE £21,875
    1-16 EARNT 4x AS MUCH PRIZE MONEY AS 1-32


    2007-2008 prize money
    1-16 £2,685,000 AVERAGE £167,800
    17-32 £885,000 AVERAGE £55,300
    33-48 £368,000 AVERAGE £23,000

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  16. Anonymous1:51 pm

    Anonymous, he's obviously a little deluded if he thinks he's got a good draw for the World Championshiops when he clearly hasn't got a chance. It's that mentality that's cost him all this money, someone should have told him. You can usually tell if a player is going to make it or not.

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  17. Anonymous7:30 pm

    Rich

    youre talking rubbish WRT telling if a player will usually make the top 25

    WRT his draw, it is a good draw considering who he has came up against in the past. he didnt say it was an easy draw, just a good one

    ie he thinks hes got a chance but knows he has to play well

    your "putting words into his mouth" by suggesting he thinks hes going to walk through and has that attitude all the time

    he hasnt got it now and hasnt had it in the past

    by good draw hes not saying easy

    he is saying they are all hard (cos he knows they are) but this one isnt as hard as it could be for the worlds

    you obviously dont know him well and are just guessing

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