28.7.10

EBDON STATEMENT

World Snooker have released a very strange statement on behalf of Peter Ebdon, the 2002 world champion.

It reads: "I would like to make it known that I consider that I will not be in a position to play to the best of my ability in my Roewe Shanghai Masters qualifying match in Sheffield next week.

"This is down to personal circumstances, including the fact that I am getting re-married in Hungary this weekend. Since playing in a recent tournament in Thailand I have not been able to practise, and by the time the qualifiers come around I will not have played for ten days or more.

"I know just how bad I can be when I don't feel properly prepared as I am the type of player who needs to practise hard in order to play to a reasonable standard.

"As always, I will be doing my utmost to win what is a very important match for me but in truth, my levels of expectation will not be very high."

I've never - ever - known a snooker player issue a statement to tell everyone they aren't likely to win a match.

And I wouldn't encourage it either. It seems unfair on his eventual opponent, who is basically now under pressure to win the match as Ebdon apparently doesn't expect to.

What do odds compilers do now? Ebdon would ordinarily start favourite against any one of his four possible opponents: Michael White, Liu Chuang, Michael Judge or Dominic Dale.

My advice to the bookies is not to price the match up at all. It could create exactly the kind of stink the game doesn't need right now.

I'd have thought World Snooker would appreciate that more than anyone.

42 comments:

Anonymous said...

Madness. It's fair enough to explain afterwards why you've played badly but to do so before smacks of mind games.

Anonymous said...

Something smells very fishy to me. If that's how Ebdon feels, why doesn't he just pull out?

Alpha

Anonymous said...

Pull out or shut up.

Anonymous said...

Bearing in mind everything that has been happening lately, is World Snooker really so stupid that they would issue a statement like this?

Yes, apparently they are!

Anonymous said...

Truly bizarre, and definitely not helpful.

Anonymous said...

Snooker doesn't do itself any favours does it?

Betty Logan said...

I can sort of understand where he is coming from, he was accused of match-fixing while he and his wife were separating and maybe a little bit of paranoia has set in. Maybe World Snooker should have just released a statement saying he was getting married since it would then be obvious he won't be as focused as he usually is.

Anonymous said...

It'll look even worse if he's made odds against second favourite and then wins the match at a bigger price than he would have been ordinarily

Anonymous said...

its pathetic ,ebdon could have just told world snooker to cover himself if he felt he needed to !

Anonymous said...

If every player were to give a snapshot of their form and chances at any given time, there would be dozens who would be either short of match practice, playing poorly or something else. It seems an odd statement to make if you believe that Ebdon had no case to answer in respect of the allegations surrounding Ebdon-Wenbo. Odder still given that few firms price up qualifying round matches up.

Perhaps there is some mileage left in that case that the public don't know about? Either way, the sooner the public's gaze is directed away from betting the better, and statements like this won't help to do that.

Executor said...

I think Betty Logan was closest to the point.

Sounds weird, anyway. (The statement, I mean.)

kildare cueman said...

I can see the logic from Ebbos point of view.

It releases a lot of pressure to perform and transfers it all to his opponent.

The information shouldn't really have been made public, but then again, had it been kept quiet, a priveleged few would have known and been able to orchestrate a betting coup.

Absolutely nothing wrong in that. The gambling world relies on information that might give the punter a bit of an advantage.

Unfortunately, for snooker at present, and Ebdon particularly, a coup would look extremely like match fixing, and where the game needs to revamp its image and keep attracting bookies sponsorship, the last thing it needs are match fixing allegations.

So Ebbo has possibly done the right thing.

Anonymous said...

He hasn't done the right thing if he goes on to win the match at a bigger price

Dave H said...

Nick Harris at Sporting Intelligence: http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2010/07/28/former-snooker-world-champion-peter-ebdon-releases-unprecedented-statement-forecasting-poor-form-280701/

Anonymous said...

Hi Dave,

V.strange but, unfortunately, it is from a player who has always been, shall we say, bizarre?

Hope all is well in his private life, but i cannot understand this at all. I know why the WSA are putting this statement out...trying to whiter than white et al. But this shouldn't have been released.

Either WSA (and his management company - 110sport?) should have gave head office a statement to say all is not well, and he isn't going to play.

This really does set an awkward precedence in the sport now, by Ebdon doing this?

Shouldn't he be charged or fined?

Thanks, Joe

RichP said...

One thing it will guarantee is a few column inches for the sport, is that why this has been released?

Anonymous said...

Ebdon is probably mindful of the fact that there will be some people aware of his current circumstances who may try and profit from it (as may have happened in the Wenbo game). He has therefore taken steps to inform THE ENTIRE gambling community who can judge whether to price up or bet on the match in full possession of the facts.

It seems an entirely reasonable thing to do given the current clouds hanging over the sport.

jamie brannon said...

Backs up my point that Ebdon does nothing to promote the game. Plus it is ironic that this comes from the man who gives it his all more than anyone I have ever seen play.

Anonymous said...

the fault here is with WS issuing the statement, NOT with peter and how bizarre or otherwise someone finds him.

shame on you WS !!

maybe peter needs to take up fine farting.

Anonymous said...

This is unprecedented in any sport, for good reason: it's nuts

Anonymous said...

Nobody bets on the qualifying round anyway so why bother to release a statement? Unnecessary i.m.o. and will only draw attention to a wider problem that we all hope will go away

Anonymous said...

Good luck to him with his wedding - but given there are only 7 "full" ranking tournaments couldn't he have arranged it for another weekend?

Seriously though, given that betting websites are the most likely source of future sponsors for ranking and non-ranking events, it isn't good for a high profile player to (effectively) challenge bookmakers not to offer a market on his matches.

Also very interesting to read on Nick Harris' site about Brandon Parker judging Higgins' appeal - how recently was this?

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:24 - there are plenty of people who bet on qualifiers, and there are bookmakers as well as the exchanges which cater this need.

Anyone who now bets on this match (either for or against Ebdon) will do so knowing that his preparation is far from ideal. This is surely better than a minority of people knowing and bookmakers suspending betting or informing the WSA of "irregular betting patterns".

An what? said...

This is an action of the highest stupidity. With a cloud already hanging over the sport, Ebdon and World Snooker have now laced the whole tournament with a completely avoidable prejudice. It seems unbelievable to think that this slipped past Barry Hearn. No matter what the state of his preparation is, there is no reason why Ebdon could not win a couple of matches or even the tournament. Snooker is a highly fluctuating sport and Ebdon is, after all, a world and UK champion and a top 16 stalwart. Now anything but an immediate exit from Ebdon can be regarded with suspicion as I can only presume the odds are now inflated in favour of a pro-Ebdon punter. Ebdon has always had his eccentric moments but you would have thought he had the intuition to not make such an enormous rod for his own back.

RichP said...

Nobody bets on the qualifying round? Of course they do, Skybet and Sportingbet usually offer markets, sometimes more.

Anonymous said...

At least it gives the gambling community the option of betting on the match or not.

Whether Ebdon wins at a bigger price or not makes no difference.

Nobody can complain about the outcome. Everyone has been warned and anybody foolish enough to bet on it, well tough.

Anonymous said...

What on earth are World Snooker playing at by releasing such a statement? I think if Ebbo goes on to win, whoever his opponent is will have grounds for complaint. I thought BH would have had a tighter reign on them than this. Surely he was consulted before its publication?

Lorraine said...

It's something I haven't seen in sport for a fair while, making your excuses known in advance. I'm sure it used to happen in athletics, people would let it be known their hamstrings were a bit tight, or they had a cold, so there was a ready-made reason there when they lost. (No names, as I can't prove and don't want me/Dave to get sued)

It's unfair on his opponents, all of whom are talented players in their own right, and at least two of whom would stand a good chance of beating Peter in normal circumstances, but now they're under increased psychological pressure to win, and any win will be tainted with "ah, but Peter wasn't at his best"

Anonymous said...

I have checked the calendar and it tells me today is July 28th not April 1st. If ex-referee Allan Chamberlain reads this he won't know whether to laugh or cry. But one thing is certain, even after all this time, he will be seething with anger. The only advice I can offer Ebdon is to keep taking the tablets but halve the dose.

(Barry Hearn is supposed to be a PR guru - so why is the WS website an utter disgrace. And better late than never 110 Sport in reporting Alex's death. But who really needs these sites when we have David Hendon and Clive Everton - big up to you boys)

Anonymous said...

actually, this happens "all the time" in horseracing where trainers or jockeys give interviews maybe doubting the horses fitness, or its homework not being that good....only to see it romp home as expected, or as occasionally is the case, run below par.

its not an exact similarity, as other horses wont know what is being said, but the jockeys on them do, and it is linked directly with how betting patterns could alter.

Anonymous said...

peter ebdon with this statement has made himself look like a price plonker.

Farkas Árpád said...

As a Hungarian, I would be pleased to know more about his marriage here. But it seems that Ebdon doesn’t wish to make more details of it public. Anyway, the Hungarian Grand Prix will be in the centre of attention this weekend, so I don’t think that the local media will report on it.

Anonymous said...

its a sad pr stunt by peter . Bit like the ponytail when he turned pro and sky tv loved it. Hes trying anything to keep in the news and unfortunately you lot have fell for it. Loads of players have of the table problems ,thats life. But they get on with it. Peter has always like to be heard.

Anonymous said...

anon 9.56,

I think Ebdon is terrified that he may be accused of match fixing should he play badly and lose next week.
Some snooker publications have never forgotten the 5-0 loss to Wenbo and the valid excuse for this defeat which fell on deaf ears afterwards.
This statement has been made out of fear of more career threatening accusations.
Some might say he has done the right thing, as this paints a picture of his life and preparations for this match.

Anonymous said...

Those who saw his match with Wenbo have certainly not forgetten it - including the ref

Anonymous said...

Just shows how big money gambling poisons sport.

Anonymous said...

id bet 956 doesnt know peter, at least not as well as i do (which isnt a great deal, but i still do)

he is a very private person and if it not for him getting on with his life after the terrible emotions of the last couple of years and actually being happy again, then he wouldnt have said a word. i still dont think WS should have published it...they should have thanked PE for the info and kept it for themselves in the hope nothing came of it, but that way they knew in advance AND ANY OPPONENET WOULDNT KNOW EITHER...at least not the extent

Anonymous said...

Ebdon had financial difficulties at the time of the alleged betting coup a couple of years ago.

Anonymous said...

7 06 .i know peter very well thanks.as i said every player top 16 or otherwise has had problems with thier private lives at one time or another . Some things a lot worse than peter but they keep it private and get on with it. This is an ego thing. He must feel very self important to even feel he needed to make this statement.As i said before its a stunt ,ponytail, crying ,falling on the floor , bringing out a dubious song ,you name it hes tried it .Just get on with it Peter like more dignified players have.

Anonymous said...

I dont believe you know Peter at all, 12:54pm.

Anonymous said...

3 08 if i wasnt anonymous then u would know i know him very well.

Anonymous said...

yeah, and i am J Higgins